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Prediction: The End Of The Gasoline Engine Is Not As Close As You Think

As rumors swirl of major automakers shifting gears from internal combustion technology to electrification, many consumers seem frustrated and voice concern about the uncertain future of the car and truck. Truck owners especially can be counted in the skeptical category when it comes to electric vehicles, despite some biased surveys.

Remember the REM song from the 1990s called “It’s The End Of the World (And I Feel Fine)”? That song, with a crazy amount of lyrics, seems to play in my head regularly when I see bombastic headlines and proclamations from even reputable publications proclaiming the end of the gasoline and diesel engine is coming within the not-so-distant future.

To that, I say, hold on a minute. It’s not the end of the world, and I feel fine.

While certainly electrification is part of the future for the entire auto industry, this doesn’t mean that internal combustion engines just go away like the dinosaurs (of which they consume for fuel, ironically).

Rather I take a more rational approach than others. You can’t deny that automakers are going full bore toward an electrified future. When Tesla emerged as a legitimate automaker they were a catalyst and disrupted the auto industry. Some view that as a bad thing, and I take a different approach.

I’m pro-consumer, meaning I want as many options for consumers to choose from as possible. This includes EVs, hybrids and yes gasoline and diesel engines, including V8s. I know how passionate the V8 crowd is in for both trucks and muscle cars.

I write enough about the Mustang Mach-E to where the mention of an EV Mustang gets the “muscle cars need to be loud V8s” crowd riled up. Likewise, when I talk about the 2023 F-150 EV, the lifted truck, rolling coal folks get as loud as their lifted trucks.

My point is, we can all play nice in the sandbox together. There should be powertrain options for whatever it is you want. Unfortunately, automakers are lacking a backbone and vision right now. With the shift in political power in Washington, automakers are fearful of tighter EPA regulations and are trying to react to that potential.

But do the consumers want that? That’s the crux of the issue. It would be a vital mistake for any auto manufacturer to push a product onto the consumer that they simply don’t want. And that’s the electric elephant in the room when it comes to the discussion.

Proponents say “it’s good for our planet’s future” or “it’s the right thing to do” or if a consumer would just drive an EV they would like it. All of that is up for debate, but in the end what matters most is what the American consumer is willing to spend their hard-earned money on. Keeping in mind the average vehicle purchase last 12 years. That’s a big investment for a lot of uncertainty.

Ford's 5.2-liter V8 engine‘Combustion engines really aren't going anywhere for quite some time’
In an article published by NPR, Bill Visnic, editorial director at the Society of Automotive Engineers, said the above quote and laid it out there. As director of SAE he certainly has his finger on the pulse and would know what he’s talking about.

In the same NPR article, Sam Abuelsamid, an auto analyst with Navigant, said: "Even if ... 100 percent of vehicles sold were electric starting today, it would still take 20 to 25 years to replace the entire vehicle fleet with electric vehicles."

Clean ICE
Today’s gasoline-powered vehicles have more technology than ever. With smaller engines and turbo boosting and direct injection, today’s internal combustion engine runs cleaner and more efficiently than ever.

So it begs the question, is a mass exodus from ICE necessary? Even Mary Nichols, who heads the California Air Resources Board, said in the NPR article that today’s combustion engines are cleaner than they’ve ever been.

"I started working in this area of air pollution control back in 1971," she told NPR. "And in that time, the air emissions from internal combustion engines have been slashed by over 90 percent — twice.”

Ford F-150 PowerBoostStill on the fringe
The stat I can’t get past and when having a debate about EVs, it’s hard to ignore. Consumer Reports claims in their “Green Choice” survey that a majority of consumers, 61% in fact, claim that tailpipe emissions are a factor in choosing a vehicle to purchase or lease.

If this is true, and color me skeptical, then why are EVs nothing more than a fringe vehicle with so few sales? EVs, at present are nothing more than a blip in the big picture of vehicular purchases. Tesla, not surprising, leads the way in total EV sales, but even their best-selling vehicle barely hits 100,000 units. Compare that to the 900,000 units Ford sells of the Ford F-150 every year. Ram too, General Motors as well.

You mean to tell me that 61% of the average consumer uses emissions as a guiding factor, and still chooses to buy a pickup truck? We shall see how well the new PowerBoost Ford F-150 hybrid sells. Sure it has a lot of perks, including a 7.2 kW generator, but is that plus slightly better fuel economy a factor for the truck consumer?

I remain skeptical and question any survey that insinuates otherwise. As Ford plunges forward with the Mustang Mach-E, a vehicle that can rival the Tesla on long range, this will be an important vehicle to show where the American consumer is. Have they just been waiting for a longer-range SUV or car that wasn’t named Tesla? With so many auto manufacturers launching real EV contenders, the next couple of years will show us a lot.

2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E chargingCoexistence is the key
I’m 100% in favor of auto manufacturers investing in electrification. Ford, I believe is saying and doing many of the right things. They’ve toned down the rhetoric that GM seems to have been drawn toward.

As GM announced a plan to eliminate production of gas-powered vehicles and only produce EVs by the 2035, Ford has resisted committing fully like that. And that’s wise. But, it hasn’t stopped Ford from doubling down on their commitment to electrification either.

“The transformation of Ford is happening and so is our leadership of the EV revolution and development of autonomous driving,” said Ford President and CEO Jim Farley. “We’re now allocating a combined $29 billion in capital and tremendous talent to these two areas, and bringing customers high-volume, connected electric SUVs, commercial vans and pickup trucks.”

My final take is this: Embrace the future, but don’t do so without paying attention to the consumer. Stop trying to convince them of what they want and listen to their needs. A slow, logical, reasonable approach to electrification is wise. Dip your toe into the electrification pool, don’t dive in. I believe General Motors is on the high board and about to make that plunge and it could be costly. Meanwhile, I believe Ford is taking a more cautious, and therefore, reasonable approach.

And as people grouse and complain about the upcoming electrification of the Ford F-150 or the Mustang Mach-E, they need to realize that these vehicles might very well prove out the EV market and shape the future.

I want to hear your take. Do you agree that EVs are being too obviously overhyped to try to convince an unwilling consumer? Or am I off base? Leave me your thoughts in the comments below.

Jimmy Dinsmore has been an automotive journalist for more than a decade and been a writer since the high school. His Driver’s Side column features new car reviews and runs in several newspapers throughout the country. He is also co-author of the book “Mustang by Design” and “Ford Trucks: A Unique Look at the Technical History of America’s Most Popular Truck”. Also, Jimmy works in the social media marketing world for a Canadian automotive training aid manufacturing company. Follow Jimmy on Facebook, Twitter, at his special Ford F-150 coverage on Twitter and LinkedIn. You can read the most of Jimmy's stories by searching Torque News Ford for daily Ford vehicle report.

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Until you can charge a car as conveniently and fast as you can fill up your ICE car with gas, sales are not going to be where they are projecting. I am not sure what model car manufacturers are using as they decide to go all electric but I wish they would share it with us? These announcements of manufacturers going all electric seem to be a little lemming-like.

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Anthony Izzo (not verified)    November 2, 2021 - 11:23PM

I’d love to own a Tesla but they are getting any cheaper, model 3 it’s over 60k and new model S range from 100k that’s why a Toyota Camry At 30k is the way to go ..

John W. (not verified)    November 9, 2021 - 11:59AM

In reply to by Anthony Izzo (not verified)

yes you are absolutely right. What is cheapest Tesla Model 3? $45K? Is that mass market car?? LOL Meanwhile we need to consider total cost over whole lifecycle of the car. ICEs can be often be repaired by owner who is a bit handy with tools and kept economically for decades (witness Cuba with 60 year old ICE). EVs? When the main battery dies out of warranty, that's when the whole EV goes to junk yard, as replacing main battery is outlandish (Tesla main battery cost $25K!). So EVs are basically an appliance like smart phone, designed to be used for a while and thrown away. Huge negative impact compared to humble ICE which can last basically forever.

AlbES (not verified)    November 4, 2021 - 2:02AM

It’s not that you’re wrong about your point. Sure, they are being overhyped to a crowd that has been conditioned by history to think this is hype. And they genuinely might feel that they are trying to be convinced by the new up and comer (EV) with a dream of selling the future! It may even sounds CRINGE to some like the folks laughing at the thought of EVs like you mentioned in your articles. And this might be partially contributed to the culture some folks were in, in the 90s. Where kids were handed books about the near future, (flying cars! Electric cars, Phones with cameras!). Reality somethings happened sooner than others. This is the part where phones with cameras came pretty quick. Quick enough to almost forget about the whole “novelty and awesomeness” of a phone with a camera. No biggy no more, Apple can do a small update on its expensive ass phones, and people lose their minds over it (invention of phone shock is taken for granted). Almost forgotten. th will the future for electric cars. So easy to produce, so easy to create a culture that forgets about the grandness of the EV because it’s buying it all the time. ICE will be set in a museum for people to look in awe of what use to be (talking 100s, ok maybe 1000s of years here lol) and yes, there will be rich as folks still using and buying them and shit. but the electric car part is beginning now! It’s that turn in history where it’s no longer possible it probable, and then reality. It’s a culture shift, one where it will leave a generation so distant that it won’t be recognizable from what we feel right now. Like how people feel when seeing a chariot of king tuts. ICE gonna be boomer af. (Yup still a long time from now, but inevitable, primero dios that the human species get their shit together first before we kill the planet). I think both can be true ok this case. Shit is being hyped to people who might be thinking about it not in that way of “Oh I want that!”, but are thinking ya that loooks kinda cool, ahh it looks expensive too, ahh maybe not too many chargers on road, ahh I have to buy a charger for the house, all this cumbersome stuff that many people believed is too much, is being enhanced rapidly. To the point where it will be in our culture. And that shit is now I think haha you said that, “ A slow, logical, reasonable approach to electrification is wise.” in your article. Don’t you think that is some evidence of cultural bias? That a slow reasonable path to EV is “WISE.” What better wisdom than to help climate change no? Why make it harder to stop climate change, the worlds huge ass problem.” I feel like we’ve been conditioned to think the slow path is the logical one, especially for who that benefits. Old automobile industries that need the time to transition before someone beats them. I believe that’s the type of message they’re sending cuz they scurred. And that’s where I’ll have to say you might be right. I do confess! They still hold most of the power combined, in terms of that class of Rich by people. Oil rich people that own other shit, enough to set culture trends by mere 1000s dollar ads. If they can manage to strangle the folks like Musk who are daring to say fuck it, all electric. None of this mixed slow shit. Less go. (Like they’ve done in the past (watch who killed the electric car?) then yes they’ll win again. But they up against diff stuff this time. Not that cheap sucky electric vehicle we saw like in our science middle school fairs where the chafa (Cheap ass glued on battery to car ish”. Up against enhancing tech every year. Hella range now, and only getting better), people will see what’s logical then and go with jt. Some Old school heads will for sure lag a bit, but then you’ll have majority of folks wearing Bluetooth headphones cuz they look dope and last long, even tho in the beginning it look dorky, kinda funny, and a little too much lol You are right, it will take a while, but oil car companies don’t have to go that slow. They can just do it now, and actually help toward the climate change effort (use their massive resources) and make Musk like cars accelerate quickly now, or we can choose profits over planet lol and make this shit slow) or possibility: EV companies disrupt our culture now, and convince people enough to change to a car tech that will just be renewable one day (way cheaper than what it is now and ICE. Just like we can get a pretty good smartphone for $100 but some people try to go do fancy!) and in all sincerity I do want to know you’re thoughts homie. It’s dope communicating with people as this transition in history happens. Want to see people’s take on it now. “Imagine what people were discussing in their day to work when ICE first started appearing or making noise” haha

Sean (not verified)    November 10, 2021 - 7:48PM

My truck is a proud 17 year old Ram 2500. I bought it new. It has towed 3 boats, carried 4 kayaks, bikes, carried heavy loads to build a house or two, taken us on long trips around the USA and it's time to buy something new. Being near the end of 2021 I see auto makers huge shift to EV's, oil production halted here in the US, fuel prices climbing everyday, dependence on OPEC and now I hear Ford may roll out the F-150 lightning (beating Tesla truck to the gates) early. Bottom line is, I need a truck. I need it to be dependable in cold temps, long distance trips, good towing abilities and I'm not sure the F-150 lightning will do this....even with the hype of it's towing capabilities the battery will lose 30% efficiency towing!! that sucks! . The EV leaves me with a lot of concerns...how does that battery handle a small fender bender? How much is it to replace the battery? Is insurance higher for this reason? What if I go skiing and the temps drop below zero and I want to go home....will this EV get me home after sitting in freezing temps for several hours? I may have to lease my next truck...either an ICE or EV just to get an idea where things are going. Another issue is the antiquated power grid across the USA. I think that needs to be addressed first. I lose power at home often and it can be for day...shall I charge the EV with my gas generator? EV's are the future...but, I think the emotional idiots are rushing things and there will be unnecessary headaches ahead.

John W. (not verified)    November 15, 2021 - 7:53PM

In reply to by Sean (not verified)

Time to buy something new - why? If you existing truck is reliable and runs like a champ, why not just keep it going? With ICE cars and trucks, if you are handy with tools, you can keep it going basically forever. Cost of most repairs is mainly in labor, and if you do most of the work, repairs are quite economical. Not so with EV - once out of warranty, clueless EV owners will be helpless as babe in the woods when their EV breaks down. And when the main battery goes (every lithium ion battery eventually goes bad), is it really worht the money to shell out $20K or more to put new battery in an old car? EV still does not make sense except for fanboys with money to burn. Another item to think about is who controls your EV? There has been outrage among Tesla owners when Musk & co downsized their range without notice. Some owners were outraged when features that they were installed in their car suddenly disappeared because Musk said it was never paid for.
There are numerous "salvaged" Tesla which cannot "super charged" thanks to Musk policy of outcasting DIY repaired Teslas.. Issue of ownership on old ICE cars/trucks were clear - owner owns the vehicle. With new EVs, in particular Teslas, it might Elon Musk who really owns your EV even when you paid large sums of good money for them.

RayMond B mccartney (not verified)    December 4, 2021 - 9:53AM

Simply put I want the option to choose I don't particularly like electric vehicles I don't think I'm really going to ever own one but I want that option Don't Force it on me don't tell me I have to

Thomas L Besecker (not verified)    December 4, 2021 - 4:52PM

I appreciate your requests for our takes on this subject of the internal combustion engine. My whole I have experienced the and embraced the technology as I am an Auto Technician by trade and a auto repair business owner that has made me an enjoyable living. When I was just a young boy I was intrigued of how the internal mechanicals worked. I purchased a 1 cylinder Briggs and Stratton engine from an public auction for 3 dollars, took it home and made it run again. When I I was 16 years old I installed a upgraded camshaft in my first car that increased the fuel mileage by 5 miles gallon. During my career, I have watched the manufacturers try to fool the consumers with false claims of how there added modern electronics will eventually get 50 miles per gallon when there were 100 mile per gallon carburetor inventions in the 60’s that were stolen form the inventors and some even mysteriously died. Now the industry claims electric vehicles is the answer while we watch the new battery technology blow vehicles to pieces like a terrorist does when they plant bombs. All this at the expense of the consumer which is my biggest beef when it come to being the manufacturers ginny pigs for their experiments and they still profit even if it don’t work out and even if it kills people in the making. I have watched manufacturers by design engineer vehicles to both discourage do-it yourselfers working on there own and independent repair facility forced to retool every year not including what they have to do to accommodate all the different models. In the good old days of changing a heater core in 10 minutes, the following year model change it took 8-12 hours. This type of activity as I said is all engineered by design to cost the consumer and profit the manufacturers and dealerships. This next step of electrification is nothing short of the same, more costs for the consumer not to mention the electric infrastructure currently in service not capable of supporting all the discussions of vehicles replacing the fleet of petro powered vehicles. While I am not against doing our part protecting our environment, the earth has come from a lot worst gloomy and smoggy atmosphere. The vehicles we are driving today are by far clean enough to compete with the damage this new green technology potentially has by far worse on the environment. We are all being lied to about what all is involved in making these new hybrid batteries. Solar panels, wind turbines and what happens to the water supplies and the earths soil we grow our food from. In my opinion the United States was energy independent before this current administration fraudulently came into power. The previous administration was for the people and there was plenty to go around not costing the consumer more money to survive. All this new electric technology is simply another ploy to confuse the consumer and for the government to gain more power over the American people and eventually ruin our freedom that our for fathers have fought for! I pray that it does not succeed and pray the American people stand up against this administration to keep our freedoms that was so dear to our linage. Thanks for inviting our takes and may God Bless America!

Marvin (not verified)    December 10, 2021 - 5:36PM

I still firmly believe in the tried and true ICE. This motor has been vastly improved since the 70’s. Much cleaner burning and I really don’t believe it’s severely damaging our environment. I believe that ev vehicles and ICE vehicles can co-exist and each has a place depending on your personal needs. I live in a rural area and would never depend on a ev for my needs. Another thing about batteries is they can be very fickle and fail you when you may need them the most especially in cold weather.

John W (not verified)    December 11, 2021 - 11:41AM

In reply to by Marvin (not verified)

The hard truth is... that majority of the 1.4 billion cars and trucks will still run on gasoline or diesel as long as people can buy the fuel.. Why? Simple reason - people are too poor to afford EV. This fact might escape well heeled Tesla fanboys, but people earning $10K or less per year simply cannot afford $50K Tesla cars. For example, the high cost of Teslas are not only in the initial purchase price, but the fact that EVERY SINGLE major repairs have to by Tesla repair center. There is no getting around this due to strict parts/repair equipment and knowledge embargo, not to mention enormously complex computer that's housed in a Tesla controlling everyhing. Poor people may reapair old ICE by themselves with simple set of mechanical tools, but there is no way they can tackle a Tesla power train repair. Poor Cubans have kept their fleet of 60 year old gasoline cars running for decades, just with simple set of tools and some ingenuity. If they had Teslas instead, they would be SOL as there would be not a single functional car in Cuba by now.

Bruce Sporn (not verified)    December 31, 2021 - 2:32AM

I love this obsolescence argument threading here!
It trumps the #1 reason for hastening the "save the planet" era, which is only a few decades old, now. I still laugh, (and worry) about the age of Distopia, prophesized by movies like Mel Gibson's Road Warrior. If mother nature doesn't shake us off first, humanity is probably doomed to survive as long as possible with whatever natural resources are left for such survival. SORRY...I just don't see electric power being useful to bands of nomads looking for water and gasoline. Hydro and Nuclear power sourced electricity will go away. Just like the ether of the internet one day, because the sourcing by producers will die away during Distopia chaos. If not the Caldera in Yellowstone, a rogue comet from the Asteroid belt , or a nuclear holocaust, what's left of humanity will still be looking for potable water and gas to fill the can for that ICV.

John W (not verified)    January 4, 2022 - 12:32PM

In reply to by Bruce Sporn (not verified)

"humanity is probably doomed to survive as long as possible with whatever natural resources are left" - yes you are absolutely right. Really bad times are coming, and EVs will do nothing to change that. It's far too late to try change destiny ofmankind by tinkering around edges with fancy EVs which take enormouse amount of resource to produce. Whatever cars that are left running well into dystopia will be gasoline cars, prehaps modified to run on alchohol, not EVs which would be long gone not just from battery degradation but also just by being enromously complex rube goldberg machines that modern EVs are.

Travis Sweeney (not verified)    January 2, 2022 - 3:50AM

I'm 34 years old and I love older vehicles I have a 1987 GMC that I drive daily and I don't ever want gas engines to go away. I don't want an electric vehicle it doesn't interest me whatsoever. I love the sound of a gasoline v8 with a good sounding exhaust you cannot beat it. I think the government should stay the hell out of the auto industry and peoples lives. I don't ever want to give up my old vehicles, it's one of the few things I have to live for and of you take that away it's not good believe me.

Carlover (not verified)    January 25, 2022 - 8:04PM

I’m glad to have stumbled upon this site! Loved the comments but none has ever mentioned the aesthetics.. sure EV looks nice inside but Ive yet to see an EV that looks appealing outside! Before the engine or the horsepower aren’t we humans get attracted to the way a car looks before anything else?

Carlover (not verified)    January 25, 2022 - 8:05PM

I’m glad to have stumbled upon this site! Loved the comments but none has ever mentioned the aesthetics.. sure EV looks nice inside but Ive yet to see an EV that looks appealing outside! Before the engine or the horsepower aren’t we humans get attracted to the way a car looks before anything else?

John Manousos (not verified)    February 5, 2022 - 4:24AM

Great article! I understand that climate change is real and that internal combustion engines ICE, have been a big contributor to this problem over time. That said I welcome new technologies that limit emissions but being myopic about what true practicality of the adoption of full electrification it’s strain on an antiquated power grid and use of coal and oil energy to produce batteries is where the questions lie. Companies like Porsche understand that true automotive enthusiasts relish the ICE as a marvel that has been and continues to be developed to produce more and more power in packages that have lower emissions than cars sold a decade a go and continue to be better and better. Porsche is trying to develop a green fuel to help reduce emissions by almost 90% that will be bio synthetically produced using wind and sustainable energy. Electric vehicles have been around since the 1900s but we’re never as practical. I agree that manufacturers should offer both and that full electrification will be a mistake. Enthusiasts will continue collecting cars from the past and it’s important to not be dismissive of passionate automobile consumers that want a choice. Developments of clean fuels would be the best approach to reducing emissions in power plants worldwide and giving you the option to continue to marvel the ownership of ICE.

Armature Guy (not verified)    March 4, 2022 - 1:11PM

I agree with the author. Next 30 years will be about choices. We'll have options to choose cars with different powerplants. It doesn't have to be one or the other. On a topic of Tesla, the Big 3 or Big 2 auto manufactures are at disadvantage compared to Tesla because Tesla doesn't market to general population at this time, specifically low-income buyers. We can still by sub $20K ICE car, but not from Tesla. Also, other manufactures still have to serve all the legacy owners too. It's like public vs privet schools. The public schools must enroll all students while privet (Tesla) can pick and choose students who can afford and willing to pay more. There are no incentives for Tesla to build $20K car.

david finney (not verified)    March 12, 2022 - 7:49PM

Don't fool yourself over electric cars..
a vast majority have bluntly stated
they will NEVER own one! Research
the facts about oil &gas implications
in any industry.It will not disappear..
Consider problems with power
outages which won't disappear just
like flooding, A progressive world
thought actions are always enticing
but fall sort of reality because of
threat of Murphy's Law..'Leave well
enough alone"...rules!

Jeffrey Alan Hall (not verified)    April 13, 2022 - 7:14PM

I agree the consumer will have the final say and frankly, there's far too many "gearheads" out there (myself included) to give up the wonderful sound of fuel injection and tuned exhaust. And what happens with motorcycles btw? I cringe at the thought of doing away with the sexy bass tones of a Harley V Twin. Petroleum is an ingredient any many consumer products and I doubt the oil boys will just roll over and let this happen. No, I suspect oil
will be propelling vehicles for many years to come.

Shawn Kirkpatrick (not verified)    July 19, 2022 - 3:15PM

I’m a dinosaur so I’m just going too stick to my dinosaur burning Challenger and Ram lol. It’s nice that there are electric vehicles available for those who’s lives they fit into, I’m just not one of them. I do a lot of towing/hauling and long distance trips and the battery technology just isn’t able to keep up with my way of life yet, some day maybe but it’s not there yet.