James purchased a 2022 Tesla Model 3 from a dealer. The dealer made sure the car had a clean title. However, Tesla now says it's a salvage vehicle because of an unreported accident, and repairs will cost $12,000. Here is what Tesla buyers need to know.
Here is a warning for used Tesla buyers.
Picture this: you've just bought a 2022 Tesla Model 3 with a clean title from a dealer. But now, you're hit with the news that it's a salvage title, and it will set you back over $12,000 to fix the battery and structural damage before Tesla will issue a clean title.
That happened to James, who recently purchased a previously owned Tesla Model 3.
Alex (@evautoalex), an EV dealer, did his due diligence and ensured the Tesla he sold to James had a clean title. He checked the Carfax, and there were no reported accidents. He says the Model 3 has a clean title on his TikTok clip.
He says,
"We sold a customer a Tesla, but when he took it to Tesla for a simple battery fix, they told him it was marked as salvage. Even though the title is clean, Tesla wouldn't share details, wouldn't restore supercharging, and wanted a crazy amount of money to fix it."
Tesla says it will cost James over $12,000 because the Model 3 has been flagged in Tesla's system as a salvage vehicle. There was an unreported severe accident, and now there is so much damage to the car that must be fixed before they release a clean title.
Here is James's unbelievable story.
Alex says, "So we have a customer who bought a Tesla Model 3 from us, and shortly after he bought it, the 12 Volt battery has a warning that it needed to be replaced, which is super common and not expensive. So, of course, we said yes, it's no problem. We will reimburse you for that."
He tells James, "Just set up a service appointment with Tesla, and they'll fix it, and we will Venmo you the money. So, he took the car into Tesla, and when he got there, they checked it in, and they told him, 'This is a salvage title.'" The frustration and disbelief in his voice were evident.
Alex calls Tesla Corporate to figure out why this Model 3 has a salvage title.
Here is the conversation,
"Hi, my name is Kate, and I'm a Tesla Advisor."
Alex gives her the Tesla Model 3's vehicle information and VIN and asks her what's going on with it.
Kate says, "My technician tells me there is structural damage to the car and that it has alerts for the high-voltage battery, which needs replacing. So, Tesla's practice is the car is now a salvage title vehicle. Supercharging gets automatically turned off."
The Tesla Model 3 Was in an Unreported Accident
"It gets reported to the system if the car got hit hard enough. Someone might not have reported this accident and probably had it fixed at a non-Tesla shop, paid out of pocket, and then auctioned it off.”
"However, since these cars are computers, Tesla was alerted that it was in an accident and a severe one. Now, we have to run tests on it, and if it doesn't pass, we can sometimes recommend things to fix it so it will pass."
"Other times, it just won't pass, and then once it does, you'll have to pay for that test if you want supercharging turned back on. So, the total for both of those inspections comes to a little more than $1,600, and that's just the start with the car because there's a lot of other things that need to be replaced."
"So, it's going to go over $12,000 easily."
Alex says, "But I have the physical title, and it's clean. Also, if it were in a severe accident, there would be a police report and an accident report on the Carfax. So, can you give me the date of what your system says it was in an accident?"
Kate says, "No, that is internal knowledge, and we cannot release that information. We just see that there is structural damage to the car."
Alex states, "Structural damage isn't the same as a salvage title. A salvage title is very different potentially than structural damage."
The Tesla Model 3 Is Marked Salvage
Kate says, "It's now flagged in the Tesla system as salvage, and I can't release any further information other than what I just released to you."
Alex goes on to say that he has a physical title that shows it's a clean title.
Kate says, "That doesn't make it a clean title to Tesla's standards because of the damage to the car. I cannot share times, dates, or alerts because that is internal Tesla information."
Tesla says he now has to go to Tesla Legal
"You are welcome to go to Tesla Legal and request the information about that Model 3's VIN. We cannot release any further information about the vehicle from now on."
Alex says, "So the warning light on the 12-volt battery, you say there's a high voltage alert now?"
"I would love it if it was a total battery because that's a twenty-minute job on a Tesla. It would make James' day, but I would have to take away his battery warranty, driving warranty, and all that stuff," Kate says.
Alex says, "Well, you don't get to take stuff away randomly. That's not right."
"Tesla can. Tesla can take those warranties away if the vehicle is salvaged, and it is."
"No, It's not. I have proof," Alex responds.
"I'm no longer going to continue this discussion, sir. You're welcome to go to Tesla Legal from this point," she concludes and hangs up.
What Can Tesla Buyers Do To Protect Themselves?
If you've purchased a used Tesla and later discover it has a salvage title, your first step is to verify the title's status with your state's DMV and then contact the seller to demand a refund or compensation. You may need to consider legal options if the seller fails to cooperate.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of steps you can take:
1. Verify the Salvage Title:
- Check with your state's DMV: Obtain the vehicle's title and verify if it has been branded as "salvage" or "rebuilt".
2. Contact the Seller:
- Demand a Refund or Compensation: Inform the seller of the salvage title and demand a full refund or a significant reduction in the purchase price.
- Document Everything: Keep copies of all communications, including emails, letters, and phone call summaries.
- Negotiate: Be prepared to negotiate a fair settlement, but stand firm on your position.
3. Consider Legal Options:
- Consult with an Attorney: If the seller is unwilling to cooperate or if you are unable to reach a satisfactory agreement, seek legal counsel.
- File a Lawsuit: Depending on your state's circumstances and laws, you may have grounds to file a lawsuit against the seller for breach of contract or fraud.
- Small Claims Court: Consider filing a claim in small claims court, which can be a cheaper and faster option for resolving disputes.
4. Tesla's Role:
- Tesla's Warranty: Tesla's Used and Extended Used Vehicle Limited Warranty might offer some protection, but it's unlikely to cover issues arising from a salvage title.
- Tesla's Policy: Tesla might not be directly liable for the actions of third-party sellers, but they may be willing to assist in resolving the issue if the vehicle was sold through their Certified Pre-Owned program.
- Tesla's Re-owned Vehicles: Tesla Motors Club suggests that Tesla might strip free supercharging or FSD if they re-owned the car and it was ever salvaged.
Conclusion.
James thought he was buying a good Tesla Model 3; the dealer did everything right, and still, Tesla salvaged this vehicle. Someone with an unreported accident sold it, likely to a dealer, who had the car fixed and paid cash for the repairs. They sold the car at auction with a clean title.
When the car was taken into Tesla, they flagged it as a salvage vehicle because the technician found multiple battery and structural issues. Tesla can legally strip the car of its warranty until the vehicle is fixed to its satisfaction.
It's Your Turn
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I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news and providing expert analysis on Subaru, which you'll find here, ensuring that you, as a reader, are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on my X SubaruReport, All Subaru, WRXSTI, @DenisFlierl, Facebook, and Instagram.
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Obviously, the issue is the…
Obviously, the issue is the unreported accident, and not the supposed "evil" megacorporation that people are trying to insinuate is just trying to stiff it to the little man. Such biased reporting.
No, the problem is that…
No, the problem is that Tesla are claiming that they can change the title status of a vehicle when only the DMV in the relevant state can do that.
Tesla are setting themselves above the Law, and that is not right.
Tesla did not "salvage" his…
Tesla did not "salvage" his vehicle. Only the insurance company gets to total the car. There isn't even any evidence the car was ever wrecked other than what Tesla claims, and they've got enough of a history that they can't be taken at their word. Remember when they started disabling paid permanent, noon-subscription features on used cars because the new owner hadn't paid for them?
Tesla is a dishonest company. The rational suspicion is that this is just Tesla pulling another fast one
Not only did you people that…
Not only did you people that purchased a Tesla received a lemon!!! you also purchased from a company that's dishonest .oh and who's the CEO Elon musk the one that's controlling our government amazing the path this country has gone down
Leave Tesla and Elon alone…
Leave Tesla and Elon alone. Stop damaging their reputation because of your unreasonable hatred! Let your brains grow!
Nobody mentioned Elon in the…
Nobody mentioned Elon in the article. So don't get your knickers in a twist.
Tesla do not have the right to declare a vehicle salvage. That is what this article is about. The overreach of corporate dictators.
If Tesla can do this and…
If Tesla can do this and doesn't release any information so that you can try to rectify, and you have no real recourse, why would you ever buy a second hand Tesla? This seems like a terrible idea for the end consumer.
Since the editor of Torque…
Since the editor of Torque News proudly stated that he supported Elon Musk and Trump and what they were doing I ask for his comment regarding Tesla continuing to be so desperate now they're fleecing car owners.
Come on fanboi!!
This happens all the time…
This happens all the time. Dealers that relie on the auctions inspection and car fax will get burned. Always get an independent inspection from a professional vehicle Inspector.
If you're dumb enough to buy…
If you're dumb enough to buy a completely electric vehicle, you deserve any misfortune falling to you.
Declaring a title to be a …
Declaring a title to be a "salvage title" is not an arbitrary thing a car brand or dealer just gets to do for their own reasons. There is a process to follow with insurance companies and the associated DMV to make it a salvage title. It's not just because Tesla says it is so, so it's so. There is nothing stopping them from doing that on their sole whimsy for any vehicle they have sold, at any time, and they don't feel they have to explain it. This is begging for a lawsuit. They don't get to utterly destroy the value of a vehicle like that.
What if the "original" title…
What if the "original" title was issued in a right to repair state? Doesn't that void Tesla's BS?
Best way to not get burned…
Best way to not get burned by Tesla is to never buy one, new or used...
I hope there is serious…
I hope there is serious legal action involving this... Tesla doesn't just get to declare a title as salvaged... And until the salvaged title is ACTUALLY issued, it is not. Who declared that it was a total loss? Where is the exact estimate of the exact repairs compared to the value of the car before it was "damaged"? This is wrong on a lot of levels. As a fellow automotive writer, I'm highly intrigued. Dying to see where this goes...
Some states if a accident is…
Some states if a accident is not paid through insurance never changes the title this was because some one wrecked it then repaired it and apparently not well if the tech can see structure damage it was a fraud job Tesla is right if they say it's salvage they should know there company built it not the state DMV which relies on honest reporting to say it's salvage get off your high horse it was a previous owner. Think about it like this buy a flood car in Florida take it to south Carolina get a new title which does not say salvage for flood then sale it at auction as clean title if the flood is not on Carfax or insurance did it happen yes and the seller did this to make money it's a old scam
You might think about using…
You might think about using punctuation. It would make that easier to read.
Car companies do not get to decide that a car is Salvage and in most states you have the right to choose your own shop to repair a vehicle after an accident. If the insurance company didn't total that vehicle then Tesla can't claim it has a salvage title, especially not based on an unsubstantiated claim.
Nobody has provided any proof that the vehicle is damaged, Tesla claim that it is because they say so. They refuse to say when this damage happened, what damage happened.
This would be like me demanding that you call a plumber to fix your pipes because I say that they are leaking with no proof whatsoever. I guess you would do that based on your responses.
Just another reason not to…
Just another reason not to buy a turdla. They are to electric vehicles what Apple is to cell phones. Unreliable, substandard, over priced, and they both intentionally use software to kill your over-priced device so you have to go buy another one prematurely. I'll build my own electric car from scratch rather than buy a turdla.
Good luck getting anything…
Good luck getting anything from Tesla right now, they aren't in a great position and rightly so, just shows what a crap company with an melted brain leader will do.
Just love how in your …
Just love how in your "Conclusion" section you state everything the Tesla person said as fact -- as if they have no reason or incentive to lie and that everything they say must be the truth. Interesting that filing suit against Tesla wasn't mentioned as an option. How long have you been working for Adolph Musk?
I will NEVER. EVER buy a…
I will NEVER. EVER buy a Tesla!! I don't like or support Musk and that is some BS if the consumer is unaware of accidents to the car. He should be able to sue everybody involved.
I would certainly mention…
I would certainly mention anything wrong with any product I sell (car, house, etc.), but are you required to selling as is?
You are correct. Everyone…
You are correct. Everyone before the purchase of the car and that wouldn't include Tesla.