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Excellent comment. Thank you for posting this view, which many share. I understand your point. Rental fleets do no favors to these nameplates. Toyota makes about 500,000 Camrys per year and Honda about the same number. The question I always ask folks that say the Camry or Accord they drove was dull is this: Are the ones you drove the sportier SE V6 Camrys or the sedate, four cylinder LE and XLE models. With regard to the Accord, similar question - Have you driven the V6 Accord coupe with the 6 speed manual (which it has made for a decade or so)? I have driven the Accord on the track and was amazed. I owned two V6 Accords and they were as fast and handled as well as many much more expensive German "sports sedans" I have tested. Designs on family cars like this are targeted to the vast middle, so I won't hold my breath for Ferrari looks. But underneath these cars, if selected carefully can really be great drivers. Check out this story for a counterpoint: http://www.torquenews.com/1083/2014-honda-accord-v6-manual-amazing-racetrack