Toyota engineers are the
Toyota engineers are the dumbest bastards on the planet. Being a mechanical engineer myself and having built many machines and other devices, I can safely say they are idiots at their best. I have fixed many faults and poor designs in Machining centers and othe mechanical devices. The Rav4 is the worst I have seen yet. My wife has a 2013 and it is a piece of shit, we were going to buy a Jeep and our daughter liked the Rav4, our daughter is not an engineer. Will NEVER buy another Toyota product EVER!!