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danwat1234 (not verified)    October 12, 2016 - 4:12PM

In reply to by John Goreham

I realize that. But Toyota is supposed to be the hybrid leader, yet really it's EPA numbers are not superior to the crappy mild hybrid Subaru Crosstrek. Rav4 may have worse aero a bit more weight, but it's clearly not Toyota's best effort. Needs the next gen hybrid synergy drive and so does the Camry, Highlander, C and V Prius.

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