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You paint a consistent picture of doom for Tesla John, but I do not buy it. Sure, they are off to a rocky start. But just now the preorder sales are getting traction from Model 3 production which will bring in cash to keep everything moving forward. You can of course view everything with Tesla as a series of failures, but I see their progress as doing fine overall. Not flawless to be sure, but Tesla is easily the best supporter of pure electric cars in the world at the moment, and their effect on the rest of the world's automakers is profound. So many conventional (read gas/diesel) automakers are now rushing to produce their own "Tesla killer", whereas only 10 years ago, many of them had no serious plans to build any electric or hybrid cars whatsoever. 10 years ago it was a foregone conclusion that starting up a new electric car company in a world dominated by petroleum vehicles would be an uphill battle, with a slim chance of success. But despite difficulties, they keep moving forward, steadily improving their processes and products. I for one won't pronounce them as dead or dying just as they are now turning a corner towards success.