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CBadMan (not verified)    October 3, 2020 - 11:54AM

In reply to by William Roehling (not verified)

Yes... The death shudder. VERY COMMON. I have researched it and more... (SEE BELOW)

Bought a used 2012 FROM A DEALER (the Subaru/Kia dealer on Convoy) who knew that there was a problem but reset the check engine light and ignored what the guy trading it in said. They changed the spark plugs (because the OBD-II code caused by a blown head gasket could include a spark plug problem) but obviously didn't check for coolant seeping into the combustion system. Since the dealership didn't erase the previous owner's information on the Entune phone book and, when the dealership ghosted me, I got the nerve and contacted the previous owner... He had the head gasket diagnosed and drove the car into the dealership with the check engine light on.

3rd generation motors are all at risk of this. Especially those who didn't maintain the proper servicing (oil, coolant and transmission fluid changes).

Now, I got my money back from the Sunroad dealership and I have spent over 6 months looking for a used car (good thing the current plannedemic has delayed our need for another car)... Other than the high number of Toyotas with rolled back odometers (I get the VIN number, call a service advisor, ask what servicing is due for this newly-bought car and get their last recorded mileage. If the Toyota hasn't been to a dealer in a while, I won't buy it anyway. Between airbag recalls and other things, a Prius NEEDS to be taken in to the dealership for certain things.

By the way, I have found over three dozen Toyotas with rolled back mileage. The ones that don't have the mileage tampered with (the good, honest, original owners) all ask way over bluebook value which isn't happening for me anyway...

Good luck to all of you out there.

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