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ANDY SZE (not verified)    October 8, 2019 - 2:52AM

In reply to by John Goreham

I can see where your frustration is with Tesla as they do not disclose. Personally, I own an off the menu Tesla too... a Model 3 Long Range RWD which they only produced in late June 2019 when they pooled enough orders. In theory the Model 3 Standard range is order-able and there are ppl driving it around. but even in TMC forums, there is little to no interest in that car.

I am also a huge advocate of electric cars and often the go to guy at work for these matters. I've been touting the best deal as Chevy Bolt as it is flush with Chevy incentives as a couple of coworkers want EVs but necessarily a Tesla. It just happens to today, a one of them came up to me and said he bought a Bolt over the weekend. Less than $30k before incentives, including taxes and licenses... he wouldn't give me the exact price.. but my suggestions seemed to get his brows reacting when I said high $28k. He did say about $23/24k after government and utility incentives.

I've also made pricing sheets for fellow employees to determine the price of Tesla's after incentives as a couple of them waiting for their Clarity EV and i3 and Toyota leases to expire. None of them are interested in Model 3 SR. Everybody wants a SR+ or higher trim.

Getting to my point, when calling Chevy Bolt an affordable electric car, it should be mentioned that the walkaway price of a Bolt is at least $37k minus the $6k that Chevy incentive. Now if you say the $31k Bolt is affordable vs. a $36.2k Model 3 SR, I will wholeheartedly agree on that but without any numbers, I'll just rebut and say the Model 3 SR is $35k before destination vs $37k Bolt. Saying that the Chevy Bolt can be out the door under $30k makes a even stronger argument. Without that disclaimer of significant discounts on the Bolt, on paper the $37k Bolt is more expensive than the unicorn $36.2k Model 3 SR which no one seems to want to buy anyways.

Actually the most affordable EV is the lease only Clarity EV with $199 a month leases with $1799 down in California... and there are lots of these driving around with their cheap leases. It does carry a $36.2k sticker for residual purposes, but still fails the 500 unit minimum bar.

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