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G-in-SoCal (not verified)    August 27, 2024 - 3:07PM

I think it's tragic that Subaru has discontinued PHEVs, and they'll be losing me as a customer as a result.

I have a 2022 CrossTrek PHEV, which I love, and which I plug in every night at home. I get a full charge in 8h at home(*), and in 2h using commercial Level 2 chargers. The 17 mile range is realistic. I get 14-18 miles in real-world usage. My daily commute, including school drop-offs and getting to work, is short enough that most days I use no gas. I routinely get over 1000 miles between gas tank fill-ups. We pay a small premium at home for all-green electrical power, so when I charge it I'm not using fuel somewhere up the chain. (Eventually we'll add solar to our roof, too.)

I've used the car for long rural road trips (during which of course you use up the battery and it just works like a regular hybrid) and some off road driving.

Let's understand what that all means: I have a car that runs on gas and can go anywhere without any worries about charger availability. In that mode it gets good mileage, and it's a reasonably fun to drive and practical car. But in real-world everyday utilization, I actually rarely have to buy gas, and I've cut my contributions to local pollution and to global warming by a factor of three. That means that going from this to all-electric is really only going to improve things a little bit more.

I pay less per mile for electricity, in practice, than I would do if I ran only on gas.

Yes, it would be nice to have about twice the battery range and to be able to use 32A chargers, and that's the sort of thing I was hoping for from a future PHEV model. I was also hoping for a more optimized use of space, because the CrossTrek PHEV's biggest weakness was they way they tossed a Prius-plug-in battery pack into the back without using the CrossTrek's spare-tire space. With those improvements, and upgrading the circuit in our garage, I suspect I'd probably go 2000 miles between fill-ups.

After this experience I never want to go back to a gas-only car, so Subaru has thrown me away as a customer.

I don't understand the tone of the statements above that suggest that it's an "inconvenience" to "have to" charge the car. Obviously *that's the whole point* of a PHEV, that you have a *choice* about how to power it. If you really don't ever want to plug it in, *don't buy it*.

(*) because the 120V circuit in our garage is so old that I don't feel safe running it at 15A, I limit the charging current to 8A. Obviously it would be possible to get a dedicated charging circuit installed one of these days, but the point is that I don't need one!

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