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Dick Tornado (not verified)    March 22, 2025 - 3:25AM

In the limited amount of hours and miles Tesla has "autonomously driven, there has been 100's of accidents and over 50 deaths attributed to the Tesla's fault.

44 resulted in the occupants of the Tesla burning to death or being killed by an the high voltage discharge then burning.

Tesla's unproven self-driven ability using just a camera & software was found to allow a Tesla to drive into a wall painted to look "roughly" like roadway, like some scene form a Wile Coyote cartoon.

I'd rather wait for a reliable lidar equipment configuration then have one that is done half-assed.

Waymo has nearly 50 times (millions of miles) the amount of official miles in fully autonomous self-driving mode, but has only had two accidents. Both, lets be clear, both were NOT the Waymo's fault. Both were caused by the Waymo being hit not it hitting another vehicle.

In Phoenix, hundreds of Waymo are on the road, zipping around without any driver. No one is behind the wheel at anytime.

Tesla has made ultimately unproven claims and looking at its poor existing record, it isn't like I could say safe.

To claim a Rivian isn't good because you have to drive it is more than a little stupid.

Let's remember, Chevy, Ford, Mazda, BMW, etc, etc, don't have any self-driving vehicles. Are all combustion & EV manufacturers then just worthless who aren't Tesla?

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