E-bike From Tesla: Model B Turns Heads and Steers Independently

The more I ride my ebikes, the more I like fat tires. As far as this ebike idea, it's a big no from me. Too many things wrong with this. Don't even get me started.

E-bike is only OK if it if pedal assist. At least get some exercise.

No thanks, keep improving the cars. Fat bike is my choice.

I'm a Tesla owner and fan, but not of this ebike design. It looks like form drove function out to a vacant lot, beat it to death, and then dumped the body.

I mean beside it's terrible looks. There are no mechanical brakes! Let alone the person who designed this thing has no idea how bikes work in a turn. A higher speed leaned over turn. Electric steering, omg!

I have doubt about all the proposed radical high tech features of this product becoming available at an affordable price any time soon due to technical challenges and cost.

I also have doubts about the fly by wire steering.
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The steering inputs by which a bicycle or motorcycle is controlled are subtle and complex. Most riders do not understand how steering is actually accomplished. Exerting foreward pressure on the RIGHT handlebar (turning the steering to the LEFT) causes the vehicle to lean to the RIGHT and thus TURN TO THE RIGHT, opposite of the way most riders believe, except at very low speed, when the opposite Is true.

If you don't believe the foregoing statement, ride your bicycle straight ahead with your hands clear of the handlebars. Then with ony finger, exert foreward pressure on the end of the right (or left) handlebar and see which way your bike turns.

The physics and geometry necessary to explain how this works is to complex to address here, but the demonstration described above will enlighten most experienced riders.

I think it will be technically challenging and costly to duplicate the steering response of a bicycle in an electronic control system.

As for "intelligent" control systems that override human control inputs, I direct your attention to the Boeing 737 MAX "MCAS" system. Not always a good thing.

This is technology for itself. Part of the beauty of a really good bike is it's simplicity and form following function. Should be much the same for electrics. They should be pretty simple and reliable and wont be good until they are!

Seeing as Elon Musk has disavowed electric motorcycles or e-bikes for safety reasons, tying his brand name to this concept is a NO. I have to agree, as an automotive driver in Los Angeles, a silent two-wheeler on public roads is a no-starter and nothing I would feel comfortable riding.

No pedals or foot pegs? Where do the rider’s feet go? It’s obvious the designer has never ridden a bicycle.

Anyone who had ridden a bicycle "with two wheels" knows that you can't have a change in direction without the accompanied balance shift by the rider. How the rider leans to one side or the other is part of the steering component and unless the auto pilot is able to control the rider's balance this thing won't work, except maybe as an alert mechanism.

At the beginning of the third to last paragraph, I believe you meant to write "Ultrasonic radar sensors". It seems that the comma flowing "ultrasonic" is a mistake.

Having rode a bicycle with stationary handlebars, l found it very disorienting when the wheel turned, but the handlebars didn't. Turning the handlebar in sync with the wheel allows for a weight shift into the turn. When the bars stay straight, it is confusing when to lean into the turn.

This isn't an e-bike. It has no pedals. It's a motorcycle. It would be illegal to operate on the road without proper turn signals, headlight, etc.

Kendal Toerner's LinkedIn profile doesn't put him at Tesla but at an industrial design consultant company. So he's "borrowed" Tesla's name for notoriety.

Shocks in the wheels drastically increase rotating mass, decreasing the ability to get moving and to get stopped.

Given the gadgetry (in the neighborhood of a Segway), the exterior dimensions compared to existing e-bikes and motorcycles you would end up with an electric motorcycle that could go 20 MPH for 20 miles maybe, but cost $8000 - $10000. Who would want that?

What are they thinking...just make a simple ebike, not an aircraft. If they wanna add all that extra stuff then make a motorcycle instead. I bet if they did make this the price range will be atrocious. At the end of the day its still a bicycle and after a you peak a certain price, it might as well be considered a waste of money. Like who are they competing with? Cars? Or other ebike manufactures? Hello.
This bastard better be able to use its GPS and find its way back to me on its own after it gets stolen.

I can,t wait to see one of the bikes,the future is really al there and we would live on a cleaner planet.

Criticizing this design is not attacking an "achievement" as someone said in these comments. The design is a monumental failure. Anyone who is familiar with bike design would find this graphic masturbation laughable.
As a fashion graphic it is middle-of-the-pack futurism suitable for a skinny androgynous model in some kind of monotone outfit riding in a future cityscape. As a practical mechanical design, it is a technical embarrassment, something a precocious first grader might dream up before they learn more about bikes. Just sayin"

Wow. I ride my converted ebike 20 miles a day to and from work.
Leaning to shift your weight in a turn is integral to stability. If I am leaning right into a right turn matching my minimal steering input and the "safety" features decide that I am turning wrong then correct my steering left, even slightly, I am going down fast. Even riding straight and having the wheel correct without any compensation in my position and, I am going down. Adding that to having the effective wheel diameter change with turning and bump forces by the shock absorber wheels and I would be afraid to even try the thing.

The real emerging technology in all bikes is fat tires. Lower rolling resistance, inherent better shock absorption that reduces or eliminates the need for suspension (on a road bike), and better traction.

Outstanding! Please do not be discouraged by the Trump supporter trolls lashing out after their fat arse loser has been ejected from the WH. Looking forward to placing my pre order for ten of these wonderful e-bikes. Thank you for recognizing most supposed e-bike makers are in truth just lashing electric motors and batteries and ugly fat tires on traditional bike frames. Please carry on!

Certainly looks different, but then again so did the first bicycle. Anything new always stands out. Look at the Wright Bros plane compared to today's jets. Give team a a chance and a big compliment for imagination. As Henry Ford said: there is never a demand for a new product. A compliment always goes a lot further than criticism. And if you think you can do better-DO IT

Fast slow pressure sensor in handlebars

Rider goes downhill ... Oops
Try leaning back while braking.. oops
Suspension spokes...please don't even

No pedals makes this a motor bike. No exercise component is fitting with Elan’s ever growing waistline ;-/

I would not buy one at this time. I would like to see one and try one, You can not tell by a picture. If one comes to a dealer near me, I will look it over and then make my decision.

Strange...

Some random person makes a graphic and suddenly its a Tesla?

BAH!

Am I missing something? Legally to be an E-Bike it must have working pedals to propel it in addition to the electric motors. As configured, the pedals would need to be connected to a generator which in turn could power the motors of charge the battery.