I am so glad I have kept an eye on several Toyota Tundra groups and pages on social media to keep up with the problems of the new Tundras. It looks like the older Tundra trucks are more reliable than the newer ones and people complain about the emission standards and the green agenda, saying they hurt Toyota's reliability. I don't know if the emissions standards are hurting any car company's reliability, but I have read about it in other car-brand related forums as well.
Anyway! It was only two days ago that I wrote about a frustrated new Toyota Tundra owner who said his 2024 Tundra has a blown engine at 7,000 miles and asked if he should fight for a replacement of the truck vs the replacement of the engine. Many of you commented under that article and gave him good suggestions. But now I am seeing another very hot discussion in the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners' group on Facebook in which a man, named David Wallace, posted the picture of his 2022 Tundra going to the dealership for the 3rd time for a very frustrating reason.
Wallace says, "My 2022 is going back to the dealership. 3rd motor going in. First engine replacement happened at 30k miles. This one is at 49k miles. Engine locked up while cruising down the highway at 60mph. This is the third and last time this truck will leave me stranded on the side of the road."
At the time of this writing, David's post had generated 285 comments.
"I don’t get it, did they just partially replace the engine? Seems like there’s something about your truck that is chewing up engines," writes Shawn Ace.
Wallace replied and said, "Toyota only offers short blocks for engine replacements. So cross contamination off an older part is a real possibility."
Asked if there are any technical reasons these failures happen, one of group members said that they are quite frequently discussed in the group and the main bearing seems to be the most common failure in some of the new Toyota Tundra trucks. The cause isn’t really known, but is speculated based on a few factors. Improper cleaning of block, improper torquing of the engine girdle/main caps (it’s one piece) and/or a single person not doing their job at TMMAL... The first few failures are sometimes caused by a bad batch of bearings per someone who use to work for the bearing manufacturer.
As I mentioned the problem with the other new Toyota Tundra in my previous story (linked above), I am coming to conclusion that when these engines fail they should be replaced with a completely assembled long block. There is no telling what metal is where when you put old engine parts on a new short block after a failure.Just thinking of the labor costs of taking an engine apart and putting old heads on a short block is just crazy to me as far as common sense and labor costs.
It seems to be that the hybrid Toyota Tundra trucks don't have issues vs the non-hybrid ones. Marshal Hayes has an interesting comment in the discussion, which I find very revealing. He writes, "I just bought a 23. The Toyota dealer I went to told me that they had had zero issues with the hybrid model. But they are inundated with issues in the non-hybrid. Must be some failure point there that the hybrid doesn’t experience."
In this case, my advice would be this: you need to test drive both the Hybrid and the gas-only version of the Tundra to help you decide which model best fits you and your driving needs.
My view on the situation.
David, that's incredibly frustrating to hear about your Tundra's engine problems. Two engine replacements in under 50k miles are definitely not what you expect from a new Toyota. Glad you're safe after the engine locked up, that could have been dangerous on the highway.
Have you reached out to Toyota directly and explained the situation? They should definitely be stepping up to resolve this issue for you definitively. Maybe some other Tundra owners in the group have had similar experiences and can offer advice on how to deal with Toyota. Please click on the red link below and write your comment if you have had any experience with a similar situation. What would you suggest David to do?
Images by David Wallace, from the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners group on Facebook, credited and linked above in the article.
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Guess you never heard of…
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In reply to It is going on its 3rd… by Scott Rausch (not verified)
Guess you never heard of General motors! Ford motor company! Motor Trend!
Still happily driving my…
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Still happily driving my 2019 Tundra with the best, most reliable V8 ever. Toyota bowing down to the green mob and doing away with the 5.7 was the worst decision ever made by the company. With all the problems they're having now I'll never own another Tundra I'm afraid. Thanks for ruining a great thing Toyota.
The 5.7 is no doubt a great…
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In reply to Still happily driving my… by JP (not verified)
The 5.7 is no doubt a great engine, but the 4.7 is just as reliable, if not more so.
I've got a 01 that has almost 460k.
Well my name is Mike and I'm…
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In reply to Still happily driving my… by JP (not verified)
Well my name is Mike and I'm happy with my 2014 Tundra SR5 4.6 liter V8 I have had no problem with my except the water pump went out and cost me $1200 to replace. Other than that nothing and I ha159000 miles.
First off. 5.7 fan boys need…
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First off. 5.7 fan boys need to lay off the new engines. I just traded my 20 tundra in on a 24 hybrid tundra and it performs way better than my 5.7 did. The 5.7 was reliable but let's not pretend it was the end all be all v8. On to his problem I would try going directly through Toyota first. I had a friend go through the lemon law process with GM and it was a long process that cost upfront money for an attorney. It works but I would personally avoid it if I could. Ordinarily Toyota makes things right for their customers. The '22s were plagued with problems from 3rd party supplier parts. I'd try getting a newer one from them.
Just buy a Ram
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Just buy a Ram
So a ram. Just so I can get…
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In reply to Just buy a Ram by Bob Herman (not verified)
So a ram. Just so I can get use to over time . Listening to the future tapping of it's lifters. Just another engine Time bomb,
I'm not a mechanic but I had…
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I'm not a mechanic but I had a 2015 Tundra 0 times in shop. Got a 2021 Tundra 5.7 seems to be the key have it just less than 3 years 0 times in shop. V6 twin turbo is a issue from what I'm hearing all to do with engine.
If the dealership is not…
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If the dealership is not replacing anything that could have been contaminated with metal that had gotten in the engine oil, it's their fault. Toyota's policy is to replace anything contaminated. Toyota MDT w/25 yrs exp.
My 2000 has 240,000 still…
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My 2000 has 240,000 still run great had flat on it other day
I'm surprised those motors…
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In reply to My 2000 has 240,000 still… by Warren (not verified)
I'm surprised those motors have been lasting him so long the tundra has always been an epic failure nothing will change in the near future
Well al these comments has…
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Well al these comments has said to me veto the Tundra!!
2030 Tundra 4x4: Front cv…
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2030 Tundra 4x4:
Front cv joint went out. Truck at dealer. Going on 13 weeks waiting on part (cv joint).
Never again (next truck will be a GMC or Ram).
I'm still driving my 03…
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I'm still driving my 03 Tundra. Except for cosmetic issues... it runs like the day I drove it off the lot. It's the best vehicle I have ever owned and I still trust it to last much longer. (200k miles)
Doesn't his state have a…
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Doesn't his state have a lemon law . Usually it's if 3 times same thing full replacement and/or full refund.
Lemon Law has to come into…
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Lemon Law has to come into play on this. This is a complete neusance to you and the dealer should have replaced the vehicle.
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This is very disappointing to hear. Sorry about your truck man!
I have a 2022 tundra. Engine was replaced about 1500 miles ago. So far no issues. I have not read about multiple blow motors until this post. I was hoping replacing the motor would solve the issue. But clearly this is not the case.
Toyota replaced my engine free of cost. But has not given anything further.
Good luck with your truck.
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My opinion as a retired HD mechanic is with the reduction of cubic inches and the use of turbos the following results happen.
Higher RPM plus less surface area to dissipate heat.
More H.P. usually extracted from the turbo charged units per cubic in.
Most drivers don't understand how to drive a turbo engine properly and fail to cool the units down as well as drive it like a hot rod because it has a turbo.
Failure to use proper oils, sometimes I'm not sure the manufacturers understand turbocharging concepts.
Less cubes + higher rpm + higher heat = LESS LONGEVITY.
I have a 22 tundra as well…
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I have a 22 tundra as well. You should see the deappreciation of that truck how it is valued now when I paid $75,000 they only wanted to give me $36,000 for it and they’re blaming the recalls and all the problems with the truck now I’m upside down 30+ thousand dollars For a truck
Since Toyota began using…
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Since Toyota began using cheap Chinese parts and moved manufacturing to Mexico, their quality has gotten terrible.
My 2017 V8 tundra hasnt aged…
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My 2017 V8 tundra hasnt aged a day in the 7 years that I've owned it
Seems this article is trying…
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Seems this article is trying to pursuade future buyers to buy electric or at least hybrid rather than pursuing Toyota for quality control.
I have a 2000 tundra no…
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I have a 2000 Tundra and no problems till now. It needs some work but other than that it's turned over in millage twice over. All we drive are Toyota Tundra, Tacoma, Camry, corolla, fj, the van, and Celica. I don't want any other brand of car and I trust the Toyota brand wholeheartedly.
Such a disheartening story,…
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Such a disheartening story, but seems to be more common nowadays with all brands of trucks. I feel the biggest issue is the gas mileage pressure and emissions pressure is what’s causing these reliability problems, smaller lighter motors that use ultra thin oil. All of these issues and you now get to pay 80+!! Not me I’m going backwards I’m fixing to rip my pos motor out of my truck and install an old heavy reliable 460!
Small engines in big trucks…
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Small engines in big trucks. There all failing .most used as if there is a huge v8 under the hood. Sure great gas mileage and emissions .even better emissions once it's sitting as yard art!
I have an 05, and personally…
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I have an 05, and personally I refuse to take it to any dealership for repairs or maintenance, I just don't trust them anymore! I basically do everything myself nowadays (timing belt, head gasket, etc), otherwise find a dependable shop or mechanic! YouTube enables miracles nowadays, the experience is good for you anyway! I'd dump that Tundra already, good luck!
It's glaringly obvious!!!…
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It's glaringly obvious!!! Two words, twin turbo!!! Turbos are notoriously unreliable! Government mandates and to teach cafe they overtax vehicles by using small engines with twin turbos and turbos are evil in terms of reliability
I also have a 22 model…
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I also have a 22 model tundra. I recently just got it back from the shop. Motor gave out at 52,738 miles, for the second time. Third motor that has been installed in this truck. I was unfortunate to not know how the toyota dealership in plano Texas alter your car fax after you buy what you once thought was a good used $50k truck with only 40k miles on it. Yes you heard me right, 40k miles. What I didn't know as I became the second owner of this 22 model limit tundra is the first owner traded it in while the shop was rebuild the blown motor. Carfax did not list any motor rebuild at the time of purchase.so back to the mileage, 12k miles later their rebuild motor just randomly seized up on me at 70mph. So almost 5 months in the shop, one of which I had no vehicle to drive,, I finally get the truck back with a rebuilt motor even after they have issued a recall for the motor and claim to replace with long I get a short block that's already making noises a week later. Best part about all the lies the service department told And toyotas brand engagement manager played on me is this now third installed motor is warrantied for 36k miles, not 60k miles. To think I traded 18 model tundra for these expensive constant problems
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