As Torque News reported in our previous article, according to some operators, insurance companies may be advising against parking Tesla Cybertrucks due to unique challenges and risks associated with electric vehicles.
Some readers thought this whole situation may be politically motivated. However, there is a stronger argument. Several commenters raised a valid point. One of them is Mardi Wally, who, among others, brought the argument of EV fires in closed underground NYC parking garages.
Mardi writes and says, "Have you ever seen an EV fire? I have, and it's scary. All the batteries start exploding and the fire is uncontrollable. Firefighters have to just wait for the fire to be over because it's so dangerous. I steer clear of them. Those batteries are toxic AF."
As another commenter said, Cybertrucks already have a rep for failing in unforeseen -and often spectacular- ways, and insurance companies all over the map want no parts of it. In fact, a few days ago Torque News senior reporter John Goreham discussed sobering facts about battery-electric pickup trucks, and said "it’s hard to see how battery-only pickups can be seen as anything but a failing effort."
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Bob Harvey, a Torque News commenter, suggests to look at this froma different perspective. He says, "First is the weight of an EV, Cybertrucks and EVs are significantly heavier than petroleum fueled vehicles due to battery weight. A Tesla four door weighs more than the 2011 Crown Victoria. This is causing Structural Engineers to look at static loading of structures such as parking garages, bridges and elevated motorways. The parking structures on the East coast need particular scrutiny due to the fact many are converted industrial buildings turned into garages. Now we introduce a series of electric vehicle units that provide a new live load on the structure resulting in a dynamic loading that may not have been calculated when the structure was converted."
Harvey says another factor to consider is the thermal runaway on the batteries that can occur without notice, recently there was a fatal fire in NYC as a result of an electric bike that was stored in an apartment hallway. In Boulder, Colorado an EV exploded and caused a significant fire in a parking structure, neither of these were plugged into a charging system.
Harvey reveals to more interesting factors regarding the insurance companies trying to protect their insured properties and shares his perspective as a member of the local fire service. He says, "there are insurance companies that are examining protecting their insured properties by not allowing an EV in a homes garage or within 30’ of the structure. As a member of the fire service we find dealing with the EV fire a significant challenge with no method of extinguishing the thermal runaway, the vehicle in reality must burn itself out while adjoining vehicles or structures are protected."
"Of course Europe is further ahead of the US in EV utilization and issues with some communities designating EV parking areas isolated from vehicles with gasoline and the European fire service was key in developing a specialized blanket that contains the fire to the EV of origin. The standard gasoline vehicle fire takes just under an hour and 500 gallons of water or less to control, the EV thermal runaway and continued fire can take several hours and several thousand gallons of water to contain."
What steps are insurance companies taking to address risks associated with heavier EVs like the Cybertruck?
Insurance companies are taking several steps to address the risks posed by heavier electric vehicles like the Tesla Cybertruck. One major focus is reassessing liability coverage policies. With the Cybertruck’s expected weight exceeding that of most passenger vehicles, insurers are evaluating the impact on parking structures and accident scenarios. This includes conducting risk assessments for potential structural damage to properties and higher repair costs due to the Cybertruck’s unique design and materials.
Additionally, insurers are investing in understanding EV-specific fire risks. Lithium-ion battery fires present unique challenges, burning hotter and longer than fires in traditional vehicles. To mitigate these risks, insurance companies are collaborating with automakers, firefighters, and safety experts to develop guidelines for safe storage, parking, and emergency response. These efforts aim to reduce potential liability in the event of a fire while providing property owners with actionable safety measures.
Lastly, the evolving EV insurance landscape includes premium adjustments based on data analytics. Insurers are leveraging telemetry and real-world performance data to determine rates reflective of the vehicle’s weight, safety features, and likelihood of accidents or structural risks. This tailored approach allows for more accurate risk evaluation, ensuring insurance policies adequately cover high-value vehicles like the Cybertruck without disproportionately affecting premiums for other EV owners.
You see, this topic underscores the growing pains of integrating advanced EVs into legacy systems. The Tesla Cybertruck’s unique design and capabilities are emblematic of the hurdles faced by automakers, insurers, and property owners in the transition to sustainable transportation.
What do you think about the challenges parking garages and insurance companies face with heavier EVs like the Tesla Cybertruck? Should automakers or city planners take more responsibility for addressing these risks? Please, share your thoughts in the comments below to continue the discussion.
Armen Hareyan is the founder and the Editor in Chief of Torque News. He founded TorqueNews.com in 2010, which since then has been publishing expert news and analysis about the automotive industry. He can be reached at Torque News Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube. He has more than a decade of expertise in the automotive industry with a special interest in Tesla and electric vehicles.
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Pretty sure ICE cars catch…
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Pretty sure ICE cars catch fire far more often than EVs do, but I stiil think we need to replace Lithium Ion with better materials.
It's political as you don't…
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In reply to Pretty sure ICE cars catch… by Elf (not verified)
It's political as you don't see them banning the hummer ev for weight or kia, ford, or Toyota for fire risks.
Hummer doesn't produce…
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In reply to It's political as you don't… by Shadow (not verified)
Hummer doesn't produce enough to ever have enough vehicles in 1 location to be a problem. And it must not be related to fire risk or they'd be banning all electric vehicles.
My guess is the Cybertruck is heavy and there are a good amount of them on the road. They are also absurdly expensive to repair, which for insurance is a problem.
It'll be interesting to see if Rivian's end up getting caught in this as they're pretty expensive to repair also and have sold a good amount (but I don't see nearly as many as Cybertrucks, even though Rivian's are produced a couple hours from me).
I live in an area that people buy pointless vehicles all the time (I pass more Ram TRX/Raptor R/Silverado ZR2 that will never see dirt every day than I can count). And I have to say I see far more Cybertrucks daily than I do any other large electric SUV or truck so the quantity sold is probably what's catching insurance attention.
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In reply to Pretty sure ICE cars catch… by Elf (not verified)
It's political as you don't see them banning the hummer ev for weight or kia, ford, or Toyota for fire risks.
Read the article. Risk is…
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In reply to Pretty sure ICE cars catch… by Elf (not verified)
Read the article. Risk is the product of probability times severity. Insurance companies look at it that way.
Read the article. Risk is…
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In reply to Pretty sure ICE cars catch… by Elf (not verified)
Read the article. Risk is the product of probability times severity severity. Insurance companies see it that way.
Heat from the fire is the…
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In reply to Pretty sure ICE cars catch… by Elf (not verified)
Heat from the fire is the problem. Burning exponentially hotter causes damage exponentially quicker.
I still say as long as Lithium batteries are a non-controllable fire risk/weight penalty they should be focusing on PHEV/Hybrid vehicles. Smaller batteries are easier to control and you could replace the gas usage of 5 vehicles for every 1 fully electric replacement. But long term solutions aren't any governments goal anymore so the electric push continues...
The weight argument does…
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The weight argument does stand up. The Cybertruck is NOT the heaviest EV on the market - that would be the GM Hummer EV at over half a ton heavier. The diesel F-350 is heavier than the Cybertruck as well. Where are their bans?
Do union-made pounds from Democratic-donating corporations actually cause less risk to parking structures? As an engineer for half a century, I look forward to reading the fascinating research on this new field of study. We must follow the science, right?
The ev battery explosion…
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In reply to The weight argument does… by ricegf (not verified)
The ev battery explosion argument doesn't make sense also, the whybjust cybertruck? There's so many other ev out there, and I've never heard of an explosion. You refer to cheap chinese mopeds that exploded, not a good comparison.
Hummer weighs 2-3k more than…
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In reply to The weight argument does… by ricegf (not verified)
Hummer weighs 2-3k more than Cybertruck. How certain are you that these are allowed to park in these structures? They just don't get the same ridiculous publicity. Point loads are point loads. As a forensic architect (30+ yrs in the business) who lives in the world of construction defect litigation, I say don't just follow the science, also follow the money!
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In reply to The weight argument does… by ricegf (not verified)
I'm pretty sure you could take all the Hummer EV's produced in the last several years and they wouldn't fill a parking garage. It's a limited market that doesn't add up.
You don't have to worry about F350's filling up parking garages as most of them can't fit height wise, length, or turning radius to get in and out of the garage. The cybertruck on the other hand is small for it's huge weight and can fit in almost anywhere.
If you want a correct comparison you'll have to wait to see if they start banning the SilveradoEV/SierraEV. Those are roughly same size, weight and bigger battery. I'm sure they'll cost a ton less to repair though if that's the true reason for bans.
I've have a rare 20yo Silverado that weighs 7000lb empty and can just barely fit in most parking garages. Again though, they only made a few thousand of them over 4 years so you'll probably never see more than 1 in any given garage or parking lot.
Fire is also a concern as most gasoline fires can be contained before they cause structural damage to concrete. The EV fires can cause structural damage with no way to really disperse or contain the much greater heat. The larger the battery, the longer it burns so from that aspect any electric vehicle is a problem for insuring a parking structure.
This is a problem associated with electric pickups/SUV's trying to be sold in large quantities. It's never been a problem that would add up as the comparable weight vehicles were limited sales/use/accessibility. Now with EV pickups/SUV's it very well could be a compounding problem.
Simple question. Do they…
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Simple question. Do they take Teslas? Yes? Then only a bozo would think it's politically motivated, am I right?