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When the 2015 Ford F150 was introduced with no mention of the 6.2L V8 that motivated the previous generation SVT Raptor, it was assumed by pretty much everyone that a new Raptor would come with some other high performance engine. It has been widely debated that the next generation Raptor, which will be based on the new aluminum bodied 2015 F150, would derive its power from either the 3.5L EcoBoost, the 5.0L V8 or some new engine. However, a collection of unnecessarily aggressive messages from readers insist that the new Raptor would still be powered by the 6.2L that is offered in the Ford Super Duty lineup.
It is certainly an interesting proposition, but could it be true?
Raptor Power Then and Now
The previous generation Ford SVT Raptor F150 was powered by a specially prepared 6.2L V8 that delivered an awesome 411 horsepower and 434lb-ft of torque. That made it one of the most powerful half ton trucks on the market, but when the engine lineup for the 2015 F150 was rolled out - that 6.2L was gone.
It is widely expected that the next generation Raptor will have an engine that is at least equally strong as the previous 6.2L V8, but nothing in the current 2015 F150 lineup comes close. The biggest horsepower engine is the 5.0L V8 with 385hp and 387klb-ft of torque, while the 3.5L EcoBoost packs the most torque with 420lb-ft and 365 horsepower. Even though the new F150 is much lighter than the outgoing models, those engines would seemingly leave the Raptor a little short on power, so Ford would (in theory) need a more powerful engine.
2015 Ford F150 Galleries:
A closer look at the trimlines of the 2015 Ford F150
The 2015 Ford F150 at the 2014 NAIAS
The Possible Engines
I have speculated that the 2015 F150-based Raptor would have a super tuned EcoBoost engine and the new EcoBeast trademark filing somewhat reinforces that idea. There is also the possibility of a worked version of the 5.0L V8, similar to the one in the Ford Mustang GT, which delivers 435 horsepower and 400lb-ft of torque. What I haven’t considered is the possibility of Ford using the 6.2L V8 that is the base engine in their Super Duty truck lineup.
The Super Duty 6.2L V8 makes 385 horsepower and 405lb-ft of torque, and while that is a far fall from the output of the previous SVT 6.2L, Ford could reincarnate that 6.2L engine for the 2016 model year. With the 6.2L engine still being hard at work in the Super Duty lineup, it is definitely possible that FoMoCo could use some version of the Super Duty 6.2 for the next generation SVT Raptor.
Even if Ford only shot for the specs of the previous Raptor, the lightweight body of the 2015 F150 would afford the new Raptor improved levels of performance.
I'm Expecting an EcoBeast
Before the EcoBeast trademark news hit the airwaves, I believed that the next gen F150 Raptor might be powered by a specially tuned EcoBoost V6. Since the EcoBeast news, I fully believe that the next gen Raptor will pack a twin turbo V6. However, due to the suggestions of several readers, I wanted to propose the possibility that the 2016 SVT Raptor might still pack a 6.2L V8.
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I was under the impression
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I was under the impression 2015 was the last year for the Raptor.
The term "EcoBeast"--if, in
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The term "EcoBeast"--if, in fact it's destined for the Raptor, which is by no means a sure thing--implies two things: turbocharged, and beastly. It's hard to imagine anyone in the truck world referring to any six-cylinder engine as "beastly" whether it's turbocharged or not. When introduced in 2009, the Raptor in was gutsy, outlandish, not politically-correct, and seemed unlikely in a world that wants to dispense gasoline with an eyedropper. Yet it was a runaway success.
Did anyone consider the fact that Ford might want to make a similar splash in 2015? It seems to be the one automaker with the balls to produce something equally outlandish and politically incorrect, but live up to the EcoBeast moniker: a turbocharged 6.2L V8. In the intervening six years, Ford engineers certainly could have improved on the 6.2's fuel mileage, and nothing says press coverage like that engine producing that kind of horsepower.
I wouldn't be the farm on it...but I wouldn't bet against Ford either. The competition has been teasing us with the prospects of a "Raptor Killer" for years now, and this would once and for all establish the Raptor as king, and all others as 98-pound wannabes.
It could happen.
Sorry, but must people who
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In reply to The term "EcoBeast"--if, in by Ted (not verified)
Sorry, but must people who rode in my 750rwhp/1500 ft lbs Cummins dodge said it was a beast. 6 cylinder mechanical injected 180 hp stock truck.
People who think in terms of cylinder count are naive and ignorant.
Why not a version of the 5.2
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Why not a version of the 5.2 Voodoo flat plane crank engine ? Seems logical to me that with the money they spend developing it that they would use it in others. 500 plus hp in a na version is great but think about a twin turbo version with 6 or 700 hp. Think Hellcat !!!! You know that Ram will eventually bring a Ram Hellcat to market .
Everyone is talking MPG and
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Everyone is talking MPG and HP on the 3.5 ecoBeast and how this engine gets great milage, well I have a 2013 150 with the ecoBULL. 95% of my driving is highway and get 15 - 16 Ltr per hundred Km (do the math). They say the milage is great,,,, what falling off a cliff.... Needless to say not too impressed. My son has a 2014 Raptor, 6.2 Ltr. I love it, the power is amazing and it feels like a truck. He drives hard and gets 18 Ltr per hundred. So I feel I can cut that down and for the little extra I would pay for fuel it would be well worth the extra cost for fuel. Now don't be fooled, if the come out with 3.5 and the milage is better, remember the truck is also quite a bit lighter and the so called ECOBEAST will look great. If they put the 6.2 in that lighter truck Im sure the milage would drop also. 5.0 V8,,hmmm super charged,,, now we're talking.....
18 ltr per 100km - that's
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18 ltr per 100km - that's impressive. I average 25 ltr, but with a fair share of city driving.
I think some sort of EcoBeast is most likely. It would help Ford to establish the EcoBoosts as V8 equivalent. That seems Ford's biggest marketing challenge with the current line up. The EcoBoosts are good engines, but in my book the Raptor needs a V8. Fingers crossed...
I'm hoping they only make a
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I'm hoping they only make a V6 version... i just bought a 2014, so that would mean i have one of the last 6.2 V8 raptors. That will be fun. I have nothing against a V6 turbo, i would buy a car with that type of engine all day..but i would never pay money for a V6 truck.
I had a 2012 SCREW Blue
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I had a 2012 SCREW Blue Raptor. Probably my favorite vehicle of all time and I've had some good ones. Currently, I own a 2013 Ford Fusion Energi... I know what a long fall I made... Thats what happens when you get transferred to a 110 mile commute for work. I was getting 13MPG in the Raptor and I am getting 50MPG in the Fusion.
I will own a truck again some day.. and I would love to get another Raptor, but I will not get one until the MPG improves. I'm not saying Ford done a bad job, quite the opposite. I had a 2006 F150 4.6V8 that got worse mileage than the Raptor.. the Raptor was great for what it was.. .
But I would like a lighter, faster, more powerful.. more effecient engine. I am all for a high powered twin turbo v6.. The raptor was a beast because of it's size and looks... the engine.. was not the real perk of the vehicle. It was actually a lot slower than people would imagine just by looking at it.. I'd always tell them "it's not a speed truck.. it's a climbing truck.."
Well.. a lighter truck and more powerful v6 will fix that problem.. it'll be both..
I am trying to find out the
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I am trying to find out the hp and torque on the ford 6.7 diesel verses the 6.2 gas. and these need to be current to 2017 not a life time ago. When buying a new truck it is important to have current not out dated back 3 or 4 years