On social media and in Mazda’s own internal technical library, trouble reports related to vehicles equipped with the new 2.5-liter four-cylinder turbocharged engines have begun to emerge. The problem is that owners are being alerted to low oil levels by the vehicle’s monitoring system. Upon inspection using the dipstick, the problem is confirmed. This is not a leak. It’s worse.
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Like the defective 2.-5-liter Subaru engines from the past decade, Mazdas now seem to be subject to an oil consumption defect. Mazda does not know the exact cause of the problem, only that the oil does indeed seem to be being consumed.
Oil consumption is not a normal event in modern gasoline engines. Yes, it is commonly reported in some models, but certainly not a normal occurrence. Automakers often cover themselves with a guide to oil consumption in a “normal” range in owners manuals. However, requiring oil to be added between oil change intervals in a new car is always a sign that something has gone wrong.
If you own a modern-era Mazda vehicle equipped with the 2.5-liter turbocharged engine, perhaps in a Mazda3, Mazda6, Mazda CX-9, Mazda CX-5, or Mazda CX-30 here are two things you should do right away.
Check Your Oil and Document Your Findings
Begin by getting a logbook, pen, and roll of paper towels. Periodically check your oil level and document the date, mileage, and oil level on the dipstick. Be consistent in how you check. Oil levels vary when cars have just been driven, been driven cold a short distance, or are checked in the morning after having been driven past the warm-up point of the engine the prior day.
Here is the correct way to check your motor oil according to Mazda’s owner’s manual:
-Be sure the vehicle is on a level surface.
-Warm up the engine to normal operating temperature. (If you have already driven the vehicle it will already be warm. You need not start it specifically to do this check)
-Turn it off and wait at least 5 minutes for the oil to return to the oil pan.
-Pull out the dipstick, wipe it clean, and reinsert it fully.
-Pull it out again and examine the level. The level is normal if it is between the MIN and MAX marks.
-If it is near or below MIN, add enough oil to bring the level to MAX.
-Make sure the O-ring on the dipstick is positioned properly before reinserting the dipstick.
-Reinsert the dipstick fully.
Purchase Two Quarts of 5W-30 Oil and Keep Them In Your Vehicle
Your vehicle uses 5W-30 motor oil. You can purchase it from Mazda, from a local retailer, or online. Put the oil containers into a large ziplock bag and place it in the vehicle. If your low oil light comes on you can add it to the vehicle. Start with adding half a quart and then allow time for the oil to be warmed and circulated. Check again after driving. Repeat until the oil level is returned to the “Full” marker.
The information below is taken from Mazda’s Technical Service Bulleting Library. You can check to see if your vehicle has any open recalls by going to the Mazda recall lookup page and inputting your vehicle information.
If you have a turbocharged Mazda, please let us know in the comments if you have found the oil level to be lower than full.
Mazda Oil Consumption TSB Turbo Engines
Components: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING, TIRES, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
NHTSA ID Number: 10202685
Manufacturer Communication Number: 01-012-21-3832
5 Affected Products
Vehicles
MAKE MODEL YEAR
MAZDA CX-30 2021
MAZDA CX-5 2021
MAZDA CX-9 2021
MAZDA MAZDA3 2021
MAZDA MAZDA6 2021
Summary
Some vehicles may have a LOW ENGINE OIL LEVEL warning message and a CHECK ENGINE light illuminated in the instrument cluster, along with DTC P250F:00 stored in memory. DTC P250F:00 - Engine oil level signal: engine oil level low. Upon inspecting the engine oil level, the level is found to be low and there doesn't appear to be any trace of oil leakage in the engine compartment. This concern usually occurs when the mileage reaches approximately 3,100 - 4,700 miles (5,000 - 7,500km) and may also occur again after replacing or topping off the engine oil. The root cause of this concern has not been identified yet, therefore a repair procedure will be announced at a later date. Since this issue has been reported after a valve stem seal modification, it is very likely that valve stem seal damage is causing oil to leak into the combustion chamber.
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I have a 2021 Mazda CX-5
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I have a 2021 Mazda CX-5 Turbo and have had constant oil issues since about 4,000 miles. Have had it into the dealership three times and multiple oil changes. Just had it in today half a quart consumed in less than 2,000 miles since previous oil change. Very frustrating!
What di I do for terrible gas
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What di I do for terrible gas mileage? My 2018 Mazda6 is supposed to be getting 36 miles per gallon on the highway; mine gets 17 mpg on the highway, and of course eve worse in the city.
CX30 owner with 7600 miles.
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CX30 owner with 7600 miles. After 3k mi. I was down 1.5 quarts. Filled and did another 2k miles when the low oil light came on again. Filled again and low oil reading of about 1.5 quarts once again. I called Lemberg Law to inquire about a class action lawsuit and submitted required documents one week ago. They emailed yesterday to contact the Sales Mgr at Mazda who was contacted by Mazda to replace the cylinder housing the valves with a new part and provide me with a loaner car.
I will be contacting Mazda regarding the replacement of cylinder to ask whether it’s a new part or just another of the same type that was installed initially. Gosh, this is annoying that Mazda is not forthcoming regarding the specifics of the repair. Ugh.
I just did the first oil
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I just did the first oil change on my 2021 Mazda6 signature, 2.5 turbo. I always drain the oil into a catch pan, then transfer the oil into the 5 qt containers to take to recycling. I did a double take when the last container was completely full and there was still about a quart of oil in the catch pan. I then filled up all the bottles to the top, and got a spare container. Altogether I drained 5.75 qts from my brand new engine. I filled with 5 qts of 5w30, and took off on a road trip. Sure enough within 350 miles the 'low oil' light came on when I accelerated up a mild hill. It was a quart low... Is someone at mazda overfilling them and this is causing the problem (blown seals), or are they overfilling them to mask the problem and just hope people bring them to the dealers for oil changes so they can keep overfilling them. In either case, I smell a class action suit if they don't address this soon.
Mazda is replacing the engine
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Mazda is replacing the engine cylinder that houses the problematic valve caps on my 2021 CX30 as a result of being a part of a class action suit initiative. From what I’ve been told, the new cylinder has been improved to address the low oil issue. SPREAD THE WORD!
I’m researching the 2.5 Mazda
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In reply to Mazda is replacing the engine by Rosemarie (not verified)
I’m researching the 2.5 Mazda turbo engine for reliability concerns and came accross this post.
I appreciate your comments, however your talking points make no sense. There are no such components as “cylinder caps”. I think you may be referring to the valve stem seals. In addition, the valves operate in what are called valve guides, not cylinders.. In engines, “cylinders” are what the pistons travel up and down in. These pistons have piston rings which, to keep it simple, seal the piston in the cylinder. Piston rings have been problematic in recent modern engine design as efforts to reduce friction to maximize fuel efficiency, has spawned a new wave of oil consumption. I’ve seen this with many different brands and styles of engines.
The two main contributors of oil consumption are poor sealing piston rings and / or valve stem seals. There are other contributors like faulty crankcase venting devices, turbo chargers, and obviously any external leakage.
We currently have a Ford Escape with the 2.0 turbocharged motor. It has been a fantastic vehicle and 100% trouble free in 47k, however I’ve recently learned that head gasket problems are a built in “feature” due to a faulty cylinder block design. It burns zero oil however lol! We love this car, but I’m not gonna get stuck with a problem down the road. Sounds like the Mazda turbo motors are headed in the same direction.
I’m researching the 2.5 Mazda
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In reply to Mazda is replacing the engine by Rosemarie (not verified)
I’m researching the 2.5 Mazda turbo engine for reliability concerns and came accross this post.
I appreciate your comments, however your talking points make no sense. There are no such components as “cylinder caps”. I think you may be referring to the valve stem seals. In addition, the valves operate in what are called valve guides, not cylinders.. In engines, “cylinders” are what the pistons travel up and down in. These pistons have piston rings which, to keep it simple, seal the piston in the cylinder. Piston rings have been problematic in recent modern engine design as efforts to reduce friction to maximize fuel efficiency, has spawned a new wave of oil consumption. I’ve seen this with many different brands and styles of engines.
The two main contributors of oil consumption are poor sealing piston rings and / or valve stem seals. There are other contributors like faulty crankcase venting devices, turbo chargers, and obviously any external leakage.
We currently have a Ford Escape with the 2.0 turbocharged motor. It has been a fantastic vehicle and 100% trouble free in 47k, however I’ve recently learned that head gasket problems are a built in “feature” due to a faulty cylinder block design. It burns zero oil however lol! We love this car, but I’m not gonna get stuck with a problem down the road. Sounds like the Mazda turbo motors are headed in the same direction.
I have a 2021 Mazda 3 premium
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I have a 2021 Mazda 3 premium plus turbo. Low oil warning came up at 4700 miles. Confirmed that it was low. I found the TSB before I showed up to the dealership. They try to tell me that it was not a problem because I was due for an oil change! After I pulled out the TSB and started reading it loudly in front of other customers, they admitted that it was a known problem with no resolution so far. They still charged me for the oil change…
Had 2019 CX-5 turbo. Very
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Had 2019 CX-5 turbo. Very very little oil consumption. 2021 CX-5 turbo no oil consumption for the first 6 months (odometer maybe 5000 km), then had 8k service. Oil change at dealership and had about 1/2 to 3/4 litre consumption the following 6 months (odometer was 12,300 km) at the 16k service interval. Reported on service sheet. Mechanic said 1/2 litre consumption normal for turbos but keep monitoring. Now i know why. Love my Signature!
What’s interesting is, wipe lightly inside the tail pipe of various makes and you’ll see black soot. Soot = oil consumption. Some Hondas without turbos had oil consumption yet others none.
Recommend every service interval keep mentioning consumption.
Around 6000 mi. The low
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Around 6000 mi. The low engine oil light came on and was confirmed by visual indicator reading was in fact low took to dealer confirmed issue and started consumption monitoring. On 2021 CX5
I own a 2022 CX30 turbo. I am
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I own a 2022 CX30 turbo. I am keeping watch on the oil but currently just have a thousand miles on the car. People keep talking about the 2021 model. Were there any changes to the 2022 model that may have corrected this problem, or are they just as vulnerable?
We've got a black 2022 CX30
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In reply to I own a 2022 CX30 turbo. I am by David Wright (not verified)
We've got a black 2022 CX30 turbo with a little over 4k miles. Oil light just came on today and it was a quart low. So it seems the problem has not been solved...
Oh wow! I've been looking to
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In reply to We've got a black 2022 CX30 by Shaun Wilson (not verified)
Oh wow! I've been looking to see if the 2022 models didn't have this issue. I'm going to look at a 2022 today :\
I purchased a brand new 2022
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In reply to I own a 2022 CX30 turbo. I am by David Wright (not verified)
I purchased a brand new 2022 CX-5 Turbo this last April and now have just over 21K miles on it. I put a minimum of 300+ miles per week on my Mazda and, being fairly OCD about regular maintenance on all of my vehicles, I check the oil level at least every two weeks or less. On the dipstick hole that indicates the "max" fill level, I always do my best to make sure that the oil level is at least touching the bottom and does not exceed past the top of the hole. Probably a couple thousand miles after my second oil change at 6,659 miles, I noticed that my dipstick was showing maybe 3 - 4 millimeters low for the first time, so I topped it off with just a few ounces of oil. I estimate that I am topping off my oil every 3,000 - 4,000 miles. I did the most recent top off and measured on the dipstick that it was about 5 - 6mm low, which seems to equate to about 9 ounces. Then, over the last week I put about 1,600 miles on my CX-5 and upon re-checking the oil I found that it appears to be about 3mm low on the dipstick. I am right around the corner from my next oil change per Mazda's scheduled maintenance interval and I will continue to keep a very close eye on this oil consumption. This is my first Mazda and I really like it. I did a lot of research in the CUV category for reliability before I made my purchase and the CX-5 was the one I chose out of 4 brands/models. I also read great things about how Mazda has really turned themselves around, for the better, in the last decade or so. I hope that Mazda is the reputable kind of company that rectifies this issue very soon.
For the record, I use either Amsoil's Signature Series 5W-30 or XL 5W-30 full synthetic oils.
I have a 2021 Mazda 6 Carbon
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I have a 2021 Mazda 6 Carbon Edition. I purchased mid May 2022 with about 3000k miles on it. Today it's 4428k miles and I've had to add just about a quart of oil to it 3x since purchasing. The yellow-orange oil indicator light comes on about every 3 weeks. Took it to our mechanic after Mazda said there wasn't a leak or anything to worry about. He confirmed there wasn't a leak but was curious about this issue and said he would call me on Monday. Other than continuously putting oil in it, is there anyway to fix this issue?
I own a 2021 mazda6 signature
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I own a 2021 mazda6 signature. After driving for 2000 miles from my first engine oil change, I saw the engine oil low indicator. I took it to the Mazda dealer and they replaced my engine oil and asked me to bring it to the dealership again if it happens again.
Seems like a known issue in Mazda cars and no recalls being made so far. It just shows a very late response - just want to get rid of the car and never look back at Mazda again.
I purchased a CX30 turbo. At
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I purchased a CX30 turbo. At 9000km low engine oil indicator light. Brought the car into the dealership only to be informed about this defect now...Told to bring in the car every 1000km for inspection. This is not feasible. Hoping this gets rectified soon. I feel mis informed and now have to deal with this issue with a four month old vehicle.
Have a 2021 CX-9 and has had
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Have a 2021 CX-9 and has had the excessive oil consumption issue since before the first oil change mileage. The dealer gave me the TSB bulletin back last December which states they will add oil and change the oil AT NO CHARGE. My dealer has honored that statement to date. Have 29000 miles as of today and have not been happy with the oil consumption. Called Mazda USA to escalate a complaint and asked for them to buy the car back and I would buy a new one that does not have the issue. They will not even return my calls (6 to date). Told them it was a sad state of affairs that they almost a year into the issue and their engineers still haven't determined the cause or have a resolution to date. Love the car otherwise.
I have a 2020 Mazda CX-5
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I have a 2020 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring that I bought new and just had my oil light come on between oil changes. I had to add 2 quarts before it got to the max line. Are there any reports of the 2020 turbo engines with this problem? This is very frustrating. I choose my cars based on worry-free driving. I doubt I will purchase another Mazda.
I had the ‘low engine oil’
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I had the ‘low engine oil’ message appear on my cx-30 turbo (twice in one day, then disappeared) at 8200 miles, just before 2nd oil change. Both app and car info said oil at normal levels, which after physically checking, it was at a normal, if slightly low level. Mentioned this at the dealer when in for oil change and they said to bring it back after 1000 miles to monitor. My two previous Mazdas lasted 13 & 15 years with no problems…which is why I purchased another. I’m bummed to find out now this is a known issue.
I own a 2021 cx5 signature
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I own a 2021 cx5 signature turbo only 3400 miles and the engine oil burnt to low mark on dip stick. Took it to the dealer tech said it passing oil on valve seal . If suck it should be indication on plugs . So Mazda have not corrected this issue yet . The DOT NEED TO STEP UP THEIR GAME for Mazda to find a solution .
Purchased new, a 2021 CX-5
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Purchased new, a 2021 CX-5 Carbon Turbo early November 2021. My normal practice includes (4K mi.) synthetic oil changes. However, I'm having to buy make-up Castrol Edge quarts to keep in vehicle for ready use. Recently, the Mazda dealer significantly overfilled oil resulting in MPG loss. Dealer is aware of TSB and their solution is overfill oil! Crazy, with tailpipe looking mostly "sooty", I'm concerned for the resulting effects within the engine and catalytic convertor?
Thanks for the article. Mine
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Thanks for the article. Mine is Late 2018 Mazda 6 model in Australia. I have had this issue for years and Mazda Australia has been denying low oil issues. Had various services done and oil leakage checked - no leak was ever found. Glad to know there is some truth to oil consumption.
First, thank you for the
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First, thank you for the article. I purchased a brand new 2022 CX-5 Turbo this last April and now have just over 21K miles on it. I put a minimum of 300+ miles per week on my Mazda and, being fairly OCD about regular maintenance on all of my vehicles, I check the oil level at least every two weeks or less. On the dipstick hole that indicates the "max" fill level, I always do my best to make sure that the oil level is at least touching the bottom and does not exceed past the top of the hole. Probably a couple thousand miles after my second oil change at 6,659 miles, I noticed that my dipstick was showing maybe 3 - 4 millimeters low for the first time, so I topped it off with just a few ounces of oil. I estimate that I am topping off my oil every 3,000 - 4,000 miles. I did the most recent top off and measured on the dipstick that it was about 5 - 6mm low, which seems to equate to about 9 ounces. Then, over the last week I put about 1,600 miles on my CX-5 and upon re-checking the oil I found that it appears to be about 3mm low on the dipstick. I am right around the corner from my next oil change per Mazda's scheduled maintenance interval and I will continue to keep a very close eye on this oil consumption. This is my first Mazda and I really like it. I did a lot of research in the CUV category for reliability before I made my purchase and the CX-5 was the one I chose out of 4 brands/models. I also read great things about how Mazda has really turned themselves around, for the better, in the last decade or so. I hope that Mazda is the reputable kind of company that rectifies this issue very soon.
For the record, I use either Amsoil's Signature Series 5W-30 or XL 5W-30 full synthetic oils.
2022 models do not have the
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In reply to First, thank you for the by Shawn (not verified)
2022 models do not have the oil consumption issue.
Agree the attached TSB from…
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In reply to 2022 models do not have the by Matt (not verified)
Agree the attached TSB from Mazda indicates the models/years and Vins.
APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS
2021 Mazda3 (Japan built 2.5T) with VINS lower than JM1BP******403639 (produced before September 14, 2021)
2021 Mazda6 (2.5T) with VINS lower than JM1GL******618910 (produced before September 15, 2021)
2021 CX-30 (2.5T)
2021 CX-5 (2.5T) with VINS lower than JM3KF******472325 (produced before September 14, 2021)
2021 CX-9 (2.5T) with VINS lower than JM3TC******541071 (produced before September 14, 2021)
I have a 2019 CX-9 with 14
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I have a 2019 CX-9 with 14,000 miles. I have not noticed any oil consumption issues yet. I am concerned however. Is the issue you mentioned specific to the 2021, or is this an issue with the 2.5 turbo in general? Thanks
I'm also wondering if it's
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In reply to I have a 2019 CX-9 with 14 by Larry (not verified)
I'm also wondering if it's model-year specific or if there's any pattern at all such as manufacturing plant differences. I'm buying a 2019 Mazda6 GT at 29k miles with a little bit of factory warranty left and a brief warranty from Carmax. I've opted out of their Maxcare warranty as I'm already purchasing at the top of my budget. I really like the car and I want to have it for a long time. It's honestly not a deal breaker if it burns a little so long as it does not get so bad later on that I'm carrying a 5qt jug with me to get to work. I turned down a slightly more expensive 2018 Accord 2.0T 6MT for fear of their turbocharger failures and oil issues. Seems Mazda might give me some hell anyway.
I have a brand new 2022 CX-30
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I have a brand new 2022 CX-30 Turbo with only 4,150 miles, and the oil light came on a about a week ago. I was positive it has to be a mistake or malfunction until I checked my oil levels and it was dangerously low. I always take great care of my cars and like to trade up when I see something I like...until now. I won't get nearly as much as I should for a newish car since this one eats oil like it's from the 70s. That is not right. My CX-30 will be my first and last Mazda if they won't figure this out.
I have a 2021 2.5 Turbo with
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In reply to I have a brand new 2022 CX-30 by Sean Xwave (not verified)
I have a 2021 2.5 Turbo with 4500 miles on it that I bought New in Feb 2021.and am having the same Issues. Mazda has Known about this since 2020. They issued a (TSB) Technical Service Bulletin for a Faulty Valve Stem Seal causing Oil Cconsumption from the Turbos-ALL MODELS. Google this and you will find Many Many Blogs and others having the Same issues. There is a Class Action Law Suit against Mazda of which I just Joined. My car is still under Warranty and I Will be Speaking to the Boss at the Dealership. They told me to have my oil SVC done every 1,700 miles WTF that's less than 2 months if I drive 30 Miles a Day. They Just Poked the Bear!!
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