When Subaru discontinued the Forester 2.0XT turbocharged model, they miscalculated thinking they could do without the turbo model in the compact SUV. It would have been easy for the Japanese automaker to drop in the new Ascent-sourced FA24 2.4-liter turbo that Outback and Legacy are getting.
There are likely lots of customers who wouldn’t buy the older XT model but would buy a new Forester Onyx Edition XT riding on the new Global Platform, with comfortable seats, an upscale leather interior, and using regular 87 octane fuel. Many customers would jump on that. The sportier, speedy, smaller Forester XT is their first choice, but now consumers will be forced to look at the new Mazda CX-5 turbo model instead or move up in size to the new Kia Telluride or Sorento.
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Another consideration for Forester buyers is the lack of towing capacity. The new 2.4-liter turbo Boxer engine develops 260-horsepower and the broad peak torque band of 277 lb-ft between 2,000 and 4,800 rpm would give a Forester XT more towing ability. The 2019 Forester can only tow up to 1500 lbs. The new Outback XT now comes with 3,500-lb. towing capacity, an increase from the previous 2,700-lb. rating.
Forester comes ready to play in the dirt and customers will use it for recreation, but Forester’s 2.5-liter naturally aspirated powertrain doesn’t have the capability to tow a larger trailer. The 2019 Forester does come standard with a Trailer Stability Assist (TSA) helping maintain vehicle stability while towing. But it can’t tow as much as the Outback and new Ascent family hauler.
Many owners are looking for a sporty compact SUV vehicle that will tow a small camper, boat or multi-purpose trailer. A Forester can tow a small utility trailer, but for anything bigger, you'll need the new Outback or Ascent.
Subaru would have hit a sweet spot with many customers if they would have brought a new 2019 Forester Onyx Edition XT turbo model. It likely would have been a hit with many customers, but Subaru Corp miscalculated on this one.
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Bought a low miles 2018
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Bought a low miles 2018 Forester XT because they new one didn't have a turbo....
The Subaru Forester 2.5 xt
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The Subaru Forester 2.5 xt 2004 is the best forester ever made in the market the quickest one and best year overall I have my Subaru Forester 2004 with turbo and absolutely love it thats ofcourse I have it tuned to over 400 horsepower lol.
I currently own a 2019
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I currently own a 2019 Forester Sport. I literally got it off the truck when they first shipped to California. After owning 3 other Forester models, the 2019 was not a disappointment. I never cared about a turbo that sucks more gas for no reason, because my Foresters were always in the dirt cruising anyway. The better Xmode and more rugged look plus more cargo space interior was all I cared for.
I also have a class III hitch on the back and have a 500lb cargo rack mounted to the rear. I never intended to pull a trailer since I rather be camping out in a tent.
If you all want a Subaru that can really tow, Subaru should bring back the Baja. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
The Forester NEEDS a turbo
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The Forester NEEDS a turbo option. Just because only 5% bought the previous XT isn't a good enough reason to eliminate it. We bought a 2015 XT Touring in May of 2014, and my wife LOVES it, and wouldn't want to give up the turbo when it comes time to trade it in. We did an online search to find our new Forester, since we wanted one that had every available factory option. Part of the popularity problem of the XT was that most of them WERE highly optioned versions. Had the turbo been available on every trim level, they probably would have sold a lot more of them. Every review that I've read of the new Forester has one thing in common, they all say that it's underpowered and needs to have a turbo option. Wake up, Subaru, bring back the XT!
hope subie guys reads your
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hope subie guys reads your articles!!!
I could care less about a
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I could care less about a turbo option at this point. As long as they keep putting that CVT in it, I'll keep driving my 2007 XT 5mt until the head gaskets go, then look elsewhere for my next vehicle.
I had a 93 legacy turbo it
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In reply to I could care less about a by XTacy (not verified)
I had a 93 legacy turbo it was on the original head gasket when I sold it at 220K but it was made in Japan
I think the Forister is a bit
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I think the Subaru Forester is a bit tippy when cornering to boost it up with a turbo. Could find yourself on your roof, now that would be an adventure!
After 7 subies in a row, no
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After 7 subies in a row, no more foresters without a turbo.........we want 2.4 turbo, or no
I was about to buy the new
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I was about to buy the new 2019 Forester but after learning they it didn’t have a turbo option I opted not to purchase one and wait for 2020 to see if the Forester will get the turbo
I bought a 2012 Forester for
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I bought a 2012 Forester for my wife thinking they were reliable. I researched the head gasket/timing issues and thought we were safe by going with a 2012. Then I learn this thing drinks a quart of oil every 600/800 miles. It's ridiculous that our 2001 Ford Ranger and 2001 Mercury Sable, both with over 200k miles, don't use ANY oil between changes.
She LOVES the car, but it really let me down in the reliability department.
But who would drive a 2001?
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In reply to I bought a 2012 Forester for by Mike Evoy (not verified)
But who would drive a 2001?
So you bought a car that's
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In reply to I bought a 2012 Forester for by Mike Evoy (not verified)
So you bought a car that's seven years old, didn't do a pre-purchase inspection, and now you're going to knock the manufacturer for reliability? Unreal.
I was so upset when I heard
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I was so upset when I heard Subaru made the ignorant decision to not continue a turbo version of the Forestor!! I have a 1999 with 249,000 miles on it and it’s still going strong! I was going to buy a new one this year until I heard about this! Then I see that Subaru’s are no longer on the list of cars that are expected to run for longer than 10 years!!! What’s up SUBARU???? I’ve changed my mind. I’m looking at a new Mercedes GLC.
I guess the 2 month waiting
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I guess the 2 month waiting list for a 2019 Forester might say that they did not need to put in the turbo.
I purchased a 2016 Forester
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I purchased a 2016 Forester XT and never looked back- love it. I get mail from the dealership stating that someone is interested in buying my car. I know why- no turbo option in newer models. They’re more comfortable, quieter and maybe handle a little betterBUT THEY ARE SLOOOOOW. Will keep until something with more guys hits the market.
I bought a Legacy for my high
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I bought a Legacy for my high school aged daughter a few years ago. It's been a reliable, safe little beast of a car. Started talking to retirees and intensively researching Subarus as a choice for our next vehicle heading into retirement.
Then Subaru shocks everyone by leaving the 2.4L turbo off the 2019 Forester. CVT issues, blown head gaskets, muted styling, production/reliability issues and putting the 2.4L in the Outback but not the Forester.....? Seems like Subaru has reserved the Forester for little old ladies.
I'd love to be in the buyers game, Subaru and not on the sideline.......but you need to convince me. Right now, Subaru is a victim of their own success!
We have a 2011 Forester XT
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We have a 2011 Forester XT and without the turbo its no more Foresters. Supercharged or turbo the wife wants go! We also hsve a Mini S convertible and a 2017 Audi A4 with the 250 HP 2.0T. Our XT did well against a BMW X2 twin turbo we also drove. Our first Subaru was a 2001 Outback VDC with a factory MacIntosh stereo and dual sunroofs. Subaru where's the fun today!
The Forester XT is the most
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The Forester XT is the most beloved Subaru that almost no one bought.
it's laughable the number of
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In reply to The Forester XT is the most by Allan (not verified)
it's laughable the number of people jumping on the bandwagon "the XT's not around and I was ready to lay my money down"
Agreed. I got lucky and found
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Agreed. I got lucky and found a low-miles 2015 XT. Drove the new models, and considered a 3.6 Outback, but was not impressed. This is my fourth Forester, but will likely be the last, if they don’t re-introduce a turbo model.
You are ridiculous, I stopped
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I stopped working for Subaru earlier this year and I can tell you a few things about the Forester:
1. The 2019 Forerster was unequivocally the hottest selling vehicle in the world for model year 2019. Demand for the 2019 Forester was double that of the second hottest selling vehicle, the 2019 Subaru Ascent.
2. The Forester XT was discontinued due to lack of sales (interest) due to it compromising less than 4% of Forester sales. It was primarily purchased by enthusiasts and people living in high elevation areas.
I'll tell you why there is not a turbo engine in a Forester anymore, you weren't buying enough of them.
I test drove the '18XT when I
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In reply to You are ridiculous, I stopped by Kevin Miller (not verified)
I test drove the '18XT when I found out the '19 was going to drop the turbo, and the reason I didn't buy it was because the interior was straight out of 1998! A $38,000 car that didn't even have Android Auto/Carplay, seriously???
spot on! Yet people seem to
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In reply to You are ridiculous, I stopped by Kevin Miller (not verified)
spot on! Yet people seem to think they can be tailor-made for them and sit waiting to be sold to these dreamers
When my Subaru salesman told
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When my Subaru salesman told me the turbos were gone in the 2019 model Forezter. I bought a 2018 Forester XT. I also was wondering what were they thinking. I love my XT.
we would have considered a
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we would have considered a Forester with this motor - although the CVT would probably have scotched the deal. When I looked to replace our 9 year old 3.6 R premium Outback last month and thought of the options we went CX5 Akera (Signature) turbo for that 420Nm torque and 6 speed auto. That's exactly what the new Outback needed to get us to stay with Subaru
I recall reading that only
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I recall reading that only around 5% of Foresters sold in 2017/18 were XT models. Part of the issue might be the misconception that premium fuel is REQUIRED. It's not. Premium is RECOMMENDED for better engine performance, but with modern sensors most engines run fine on lower grade fuel. It even says so in the Subaru factory owner's manual for the Forester XT and clearly states it does not affect the warranty. Unfortunately, few consumers seem to RTFM. The FA24 makes up for some of the loss in power the FA20 encounters when running on regular 87 octane fuel, but it's importance seems overstated in this article.
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Give me an Onyx Edition
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Give me an Onyx Edition Forester XT with the option of a 6spd manual. At the very least fix the issues with the cvt and I would buy one in a heart beat.
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