When William Roy Cooper brought home his shiny new Ram 2500 Laramie 4x4, excitement quickly gave way to concern. Planning to tow a 32-foot toy hauler fifth wheel with his new truck, William believed that the 2500 series had ample towing capability for the task. After a quick dive into online forums though, his confidence in the truck’s capability began to decline. He expressed his dilemma in the "Ram 2500 4x4 Group" on Facebook, sharing his worry:
"So did I make a mistake buying a 2500 Laramie 4x4 to tow a small 5th wheel toy hauler? Seems like everything I am reading is a 2500 can't tow any 5th wheels because everything has a pin weight higher than 2500 pounds. Help would be appreciated because I bought this truck with the intention of towing a toy hauler 5th wheel. Something in the 32 ft range."
The Root of Concern
It’s easy to get swept into doubt when browsing endless forum threads about payload limitations, pin weights, and the never-ending clash between Ram 2500s and 3500s. William’s concern is far from unique, especially given how dominating and opinionated these online discussions about towing capacities have become in truck enthusiast groups.
Many owners of Ram 2500s, especially those venturing into fifth-wheel towing for the first time, can quickly find themselves second-guessing their entire setup. After all, the deeper you scroll, the more those numbers and opinions start to feel like red flags.
At the center of all this stress? Pin weight. That unassuming but critical figure representing the downward force the trailer applies to the truck’s hitch. Even a modest 32-foot fifth wheel toy hauler can easily reach or exceed pin weights of 2,500 to over 3,000 pounds depending on construction, layout, and how the toys are loaded in the rear.
This concern about payload and reliability also naturally leads many Ram 2500 owners to carefully consider extended warranty options, particularly after hearing about common issues reported by other Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi owners.
Real World Experiences
To get an applied and practical perspective, we can consider other truck owners' experiences who responded directly to William's concerns.
Edward Kuligowski, a fellow truck owner in the group, offered reassurance from his personal experience, commenting, "42 foot, 13,000 pound dry 5th wheel with my 2500 6.7, don’t let the internet scare you!"
Edward's straightforward advice highlights that, while specifications and sticker ratings are important, real-world experiences sometimes tell a different, often more reassuring, story.
He even included a photo of his setup, alongside many others in the Facebook group. This is to show that with the right conditions, a Ram 2500 can absolutely hold its own in the real world:
Another commenter, Ed Redding, also provided valuable practical advice about load distribution:
"Also, keep in mind, depending on how you load the garage it will affect pin weight. The pin weight couldn't be less hauling your toys than empty. The weight in the rear acts as a cantilever. I had a 2017 Ram 2500 Laramie 6.7 4x4 pull a 39' Heritage Glen all over the south. It weighed 12,700 lbs dry and around 14k loaded. I was able to get under my pin weight by loading things to the rear."
Sean Granger again challenged conventional wisdom, stating that, "It’s these keyboard warriors with all of the payload sticker ratings. I’ve been in towing and transit my whole life and never heard anything about payload ratings until joining these groups. Go on the interstate all day you will see F350s or Ram 3500s pulling 5 car haulers loaded."
While the last few folks shared their experience with their hauls, Iliev Freitas suggested a practical upgrade to "put a set of airbags on the rear, that will help a lot."
Airbags or auxiliary suspension systems can significantly enhance the Ram 2500’s ability to manage heavier pin weights and payloads, providing extra stability and peace of mind for drivers. Especially for those considering larger loads for their hauls.
Truck enthusiasts seeking confidence in their vehicle’s abilities might consider similar upgrades, like how another Ram owner significantly improved his towing experience by completing exterior upgrades,
Understanding the Ram Lineup and Looking Ahead for Future Innovations
To better understand the capabilities of the Ram 2500, exploring Ram’s broader truck lineup helps. Truck enthusiasts may find confidence in Ram’s robust engineering and innovative features by discovering what makes the Ram 2500 Heavy Duty Rebel so special.
Future innovations also impact towing decisions, as highlighted by recent developments regarding Ram delaying the Ram 1500 REV BEV and moving the launch of the extended-range Ramcharger. Understanding these industry shifts can guide current decisions about investing in towing vehicles.
Moreover, significant demand surrounding the upcoming 2025 Ramcharger highlights why many truck enthusiasts are eager about Ram’s future lineup, further influencing towing vehicle considerations.
My Personal Insight
What stands out the most in William’s situation isn’t just the truck or the trailer, it’s how easily the lines between capability and comfort zone can blur when towing enters the equation. On paper, the Ram 2500 checks all the right boxes. But in practice, especially with fifth wheels involved, the details matter more than the headline numbers.
This experience is a reminder that towing isn’t always black and white. Between pin weight, payload, and how weight is distributed, even a well-matched setup can raise questions once real-world variables come into play.
It’s not about whether the Ram 2500 is capable but about how it's configured, what’s being towed, and how those elements interact. That’s where owners can gain or lose confidence quickly. William’s post reflects a much larger conversation happening across the truck community, and it’s one worth paying close attention to. And if anything, stories like his open the door to conversations that help future owners approach their setups with more clarity and fewer surprises.
Takeaways from William’s Concerns
Max tow ratings are only part of the story as payload is the real gatekeeper. You can have a truck that’s “rated” to tow 17,000+ pounds, but if your pin weight eats up your payload, you’re already in the danger zone. Always start with your door jamb sticker, not the brochure.
Fifth wheels behave differently than bumper-pulls. This is especially true with toy haulers. Where you place weight inside the trailer can swing your pin weight by hundreds of pounds. That means thoughtful loading is just as important as what’s written on the spec sheet.
Internet forums can be a double-edged sword as they’re filled with valuable experience, but also worst-case scenarios that can shake your confidence unnecessarily. Use them as a guide.
Suspension upgrades like airbags aren’t just comfort mods as they can stabilize your setup and reduce sag, giving you a more confident, compliant ride. But they’re not a fix-all. If you’re relying on aftermarket parts to make your truck barely capable, it may be time to reevaluate your rig.
Join the Discussion
Have you ever hit the road with a setup that had you wondering if your truck could keep up?
What’s one thing you wish you knew before putting your vehicle to the test?
I would love to hear about your towing experiences in the comments below.
Aram Krajekian is a young automotive journalist with an interest in the automotive industry. Follow Aram on X and LinkedIn for daily news coverage about cars.
Image Sources: Ram Gallery and Edward Kuligowski’s comment from the “Ram 2500 4x4” Public Facebook Group.
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My 2016 2500 Laramie tows my…
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My 2016 2500 Laramie tows my 34' fifth wheel great 6.7 and handles it great , so I'm confused .
My truck hauls my fifth…
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In reply to My 2016 2500 Laramie tows my… by Joe Hardin (not verified)
My truck hauls my fifth wheel fine too. But that doesn't mean it's not overloaded on the truck axles and that it's legal or safe.
I recommend you have your truck and trailer weighed to verify what the actual weights are.
Great advice Rob thank you…
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In reply to My truck hauls my fifth… by rob (not verified)
Great advice Rob thank you. I definitely agree that getting your truck weighed is the much more safer route.
Stop worried about the…
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In reply to My truck hauls my fifth… by rob (not verified)
Stop worried about the sticker, put in Timbrens or air suspension and if you need and use common sense. How does the truck feel? I've towed a 14.5 K living quarters horse trailer, with 2500s for thousands of miles. Tows greay and safely.
If he is asking he doesn't…
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If he is asking he doesn't know and only qualified people at ram should be giving advice. Ie the dealer he bought from was unaware his objective? More suspect. At the end of the day you follow the specs because when he gets in an accident and people are hurt that is what will.matter.
Unfortunately most dealers…
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In reply to If he is asking he doesn't… by Booch (not verified)
Unfortunately most dealers are clueless and only know what the tow rating is and not about hitch weight and legal requirements. Most dealers and drivers are unaware of drivers license level requirements for combined vehicles whose weight exceed certain thresholds. For example, my gooseneck is rated at 21,000 lbs so I require a class 3 license just to pull the trailer even without a load on it.
I haven't been to a dealer…
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In reply to If he is asking he doesn't… by Booch (not verified)
I haven't been to a dealer in the last 15 years that knew anything about the cars offered.
Granted I like more unique and obscure things but I as a car enthusiast I shouldn't know more than the person whose job it is to know.
I've lost track of how many times I've heard 'i didn't know we made that' from salesman. Let alone know anything technical about them.
I have a Ram 2500 crew cab,…
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In reply to If he is asking he doesn't… by Booch (not verified)
I have a Ram 2500 crew cab, long bed, with a 6.4 gas. I tow a 36 foot fifth wheel, with 3 large slides. It weighs about 14500 empty. Before this I had a 18 Duramax, same cab set up. The 6.4 will pull with the Duramax, both are stock. Common sense goes a long way when towing.
This is an awkward article…
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This is an awkward article considering the payload for a 2500 Ram is 2799-3999 lbs.
I believe you are listing 4…
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In reply to This is an awkward article… by Dan B (not verified)
I believe you are listing 4 x 2 Tradesman (max) levels. He has a Power Wagon (4 x 4). They are rated just over 1,700lb payload due to a number of variables:
- the front drive axle
- transfer case
- softer springs for off-road flex
- increased suspension travel
- taller ride height
- magnetic disconnect sway bars
- factory winch...etc.
Kingpin weight and payload…
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In reply to This is an awkward article… by Dan B (not verified)
Kingpin weight and payload ratings are two different things so no, it's not an ackward article.
The payload is what the…
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In reply to This is an awkward article… by Dan B (not verified)
The payload is what the truck is rated for before you add anything. I have 2800 lb payload. Once I add a full tank of fuel, def, running boards, tools, spray in liner, sliding fifth wheel hitch, passengers, a small amount of tools, I quickly use from 00 to 1200 pounds depending on how many passengers I have.
My 37.5 foot fifth wheel camper has a dry hitch weight of 1850lbs. Then you add two full propane tanks that store at the front, the misc stuff you store in the underneath storage, and even with water at the back of the camper, I easily exceed 2100 lbs on the hitch. And my gooseneck trailer is triple axle and only 24 feet, but with a mid sized skid steer loaded over the trailer axles, I am only 100 pounds under the truck axle weight without passengers.
Even though the truck seems to handle it well, I still have to be aware of actual load and limits and stay within them legally. Safety and fines are at risk otherwise.
I try to use a truck scale to verify my weights and recommend everyone do the same. Just because it handles fine doesn't mean you're not overloaded.
Although i personally believe these trucks can handle more than what they're rated for, my opinion doesn't overrule regulations, specifications, and laws.
The standards (society of…
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In reply to The payload is what the… by rob (not verified)
The standards (society of Automotive Engineers) includes a full tank of gas, 2 150 lb passengers and even 70 lb's of trailer tow gear.
Be careful...
I've also put 2 pallets of…
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I've also put 2 pallets of water in the back of 2010 Dodge 2500, he'll be fine.
Here is something we need to…
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In reply to I've also put 2 pallets of… by Dan B (not verified)
Here is something we need to know. Did the person in the article buy a megacab, or crew/quad cab. I have a 2019 Big Horn 4x4 Megacab. My payload is a few hundred pounds less, because of the weight of the cab. That being said, my 37ft fiver has a pin weight of 2100 pounds. The only thing I do not like is the coil spring suspension as compared to leaf springs. Too much body roll for my liking. I installed a set of Timbren bump stops. No air bag system needed. They are a progressive rubber load absorber. Tows like a dream.
This is so incredibly vague…
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In reply to I've also put 2 pallets of… by Dan B (not verified)
This is so incredibly vague... 2 pallets of water.. okay. In what form? Cases of water bottles? 55 gallon drums? How many cases/drums? How many bottles in each case?
I'm not sure posting…
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I'm not sure posting anonymous truck drivers real world claims is a good practice. There are plenty of people driving around with unsafe trailer and truck combinations that haven't had any problems yet. That doesn't mean it's okay or safe.
I own a 2019 RAM 2500 4x4…
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I own a 2019 RAM 2500 4x4 LWB.
I tow everything I own with it. A GN loaded with a Case 450 Dozer and a 36’ Travel Trailer.
Never had a problem BUT always make sure the load is properly distributed.
Thanks for giving your…
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In reply to I own a 2019 RAM 2500 4x4… by Jim Bennett (not verified)
Thanks for giving your thoughts on this Jim. I definitely agree, load distribution is absolutely crucial here.
Ram 2500 Trucks with 6.7…
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Ram 2500 Trucks with 6.7 Cummins Only...Even if you upgrade to 3500 Series...Cummins 6.7 Only...You can easily modify Pin Weights with these trucks.....
The problem is many do not…
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The problem is many do not understand or care enough about load ratings and load distribution. Just because your truck can tow 19,000 lbs doesn't mean you can legally attach a trailer with that weight to your truck. The pin weight and effecting payload are crucial details. A fifth wheel or goose neck trailer have heavy pin weights that people do not recognize. I learned that the hard way by buying a 2500 when I really need a 3500.
If you have a 2500 then your max weight on your truck is 10,000 pounds, distributed across the front and rear axles according to their specifications.
Do yourself and everyone else on the road a favor and do one simple thing. Take your truck and loaded trailer to a weigh scale and check the weight for each axle and totals. There's likely a good chance many are overweight. Just because it hauls fine and handles good doesn't mean it's safe or legal. Adding air bags does not increase the rating of your truck in any way.
Be prepared for any associated fines.
7,500 lb airlift system with…
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7,500 lb airlift system with a compressor on board will solve those problems. Seen this many times customers come in with your problem and this is what we do to solve it.
Good advice JMRush. That's a…
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In reply to 7,500 lb airlift system with… by JMRush (not verified)
Good advice JMRush. That's a good idea.
You did make a huge mistake…
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You did make a huge mistake you bought a ram.
I drive a baby truck lol…
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I drive a baby truck lol tacoma double cab 4x4 short bed...I can tow a 6500 trailer at ease with sumo springs made by super springs international, you should check them out. It helps with sway and sagging. First time I towed with out it was scary. My truck and trailer were fish tailing on highway.
Hi Anthony. Hope your towing…
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In reply to I drive a baby truck lol… by Anthony Ruiz (not verified)
Hi Anthony.
Hope your towing experience now is going smoother than that first time!
Should have gotten a Ford!…
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Should have gotten a Ford! Everyone knows you need a Ford if you want to tow and haul, Chevy and Dodge are ok if you're just going to the mall!
It's not always if the…
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It's not always if the vehicle can tow it, but can it stop it. People don't think about the stop.
A tow vehicle is never meant…
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In reply to It's not always if the… by Renae Dudley (not verified)
A tow vehicle is never meant to stop a trailer.. This is the reason trailers have brakes...
I heard out of Australia the…
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I heard out of Australia the frames are cracking. Australian company came up with a fix.
Pagination