Top 5 Reasons Toyota Tundra Pickup Trucks Are a Good Investment

Article is way off point and reads like a lame Advertisement for Toyota.

First, as of 2017, the most "American Pick Up" is the F-150 with 85% TDC. Tundra is not even on the Top 10 trucks list.

Second, the 5.7 is hardly powerful by today's standards and is an absolute gas guzzler.

Then we can get into the entire limitation of bed, cab and wheel base configurations. Only two thirsty engines. That Tow Rating (10,500) was cool 10 years ago. Today the RAM (10,680), Sierra (12,000), F-150 (12,200), and Silverado (12,500) all best it.

RAM can also pull 9,800lbs with the Ecodiesel while still getting a respectable 15mpg. I suspect the Tundra will drop into the single digits at that weight.

Interior and Seat comfort have also come a long way, Tundra is still a solid generation behind in interior build quality and comfort.

Value Retention is a double edge sword. While it's great if you want to buy new and sell down the road, it also means you are way over paying in the used market. Big-3 also offer excellent option packages and deep discounts (RAM, $14,500 off right now) while Toyota is notoriously stingy. $40K OTD for a Domestic and $40k OTD for a Tundra are vastly different things.

Here are the newest mpg rankings among full-size pickup trucks; simplified to include only the most economical for each power train and combining nameplates with the same assembly, i.e. Chevy and GMC:
(1) Ford F150 PowerStroke 22/30/25 mpg 250@3250 / 440@1750 HP/Torque
(2) Ram 1500 Ecodiesel 20/27/23 240@3600 / 420@2000
(3)Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost 20/26/22 325@5000 / 400@2750
(4)Ford F150 3.3L V6 19/25/22 290@6500 / 265@4000
(5)Ford F150 3.5L Ecoboost 18/25/21 375@5000 / 470@3500
(6)GM 4.3L V6 18/24/20 285 @5300 / 306@3000
(6)GM 5.3L w/eAssist 18/24/20 355 @5600 / 383@4100*very limited
(6)Ram 3.6L Penstar 17/25/20 305@6400 / 269@4175
(7)F150 5.0L V8 17/23/19 395@5750 / 400@4500 *top V8

Toyota Tundra has the "worst in class" fuel economy. The only truck engine combination in the entire class worse than the Tundra 4.6L V8 is the Tundra with the 5.7L V8. Performance is average for the class, but the curb weight is getting heavier and heavier compared to the competition as the domestics start to cut weight, and so they're losing in the power-to-weight ratio war. Curb weight is many hundreds higher than equally-configured F150; and will soon be many hundreds higher than the upcoming GMC and Chevy Silverado 1500s. Ram cut only up to 225 pounds. Ford up to 700; Chevy/GMC will be up to 450. Domestics will all soon have a diesel. Ford offers downsized gas-powered turbo charging for only a slight premium over the base. Ford also offers a ten-speed transmission standard on all but the base engine. GM will soon offer next-generation dynamic fuel management standard; the newest six cylinder diesel; and some engine/trucks with a ten-speed transmission.

Tundra 5.7L V8 13/18/15 381@5600 / 401@3600
Tundra 4.6L V8 15/19/16 310@5600 / 327@3400

This gas mileage versus performance aspect says more about engineered products than just how much gas one can save. It says a lot about engineering effort and how well manufacturers are keeping up with the times; how much money they're making on the products; how much passion and dedication they have to building these products. Imagine if Toyota had made a decision to keep Camry or Prius with the same engineering for as many years as they have the full-size truck. Up until around 2005, it was customary and acceptable to allow full size trucks to run through long production cycles. This has all changed since that time, but Toyota and Nissan hasn't yet shown that they're committed to what it takes to compete in today's full size truck market. They should either play or get out! Sort of like Ford's latest decision to leave the car market for North America. Just like with trucks, if your company wants to sell land compete in the compact car market and the mid-size car market, you better be ready to keep reinvesting billions of dollars in those products every six years or so. If you don't, you're not going to sell products and you'll lose market share very quickly.

Tundra comes standard with a 4:10 axle ratio, 4:30 with the tow package. The other 3 have standard shit axle ratios standard and even with the tow package most are only 3:55, Ram I think is 3:92 for an extra cost. You can only get the 4:10 in the 2500s on the others. Anyone who knows shit about towing knows its all about the axle ratio. GM 2500 gas models come with the 6.0L still. 401ft of torque is more then enough. Its like a woman with a D cup, its bigger but does not provide any real advantage for the woman who is sporting a solid B cup, zero none. As far as everyone quoting gas mileage from the sticker, what a bunch of BS. I spoke to a guy camping last week that has the Duramax, he gets about 11 miles to the gallon towing his 5th wheel and in the mountains or if its really windy he says its about 8 miles to the gallon. I have a 5.3L when towing a 4k trailer gets 7 miles to the gallon. People who sit and speak on these things have no actual experience with these trucks. They google everything, I am going to buy a 2018 Tundra, I am 47 years old and have owned all except Ford, which monkeys can fly out of my azz before I ever buy a 6 cylinder in a truck, weak and stupid. Look at the youtube video of the ecoboost versus their 5.0. Its a drag race 1/4 mile and the 5.0 is right there and beats it once easily, although that could be attributed to the driver. Who gives two shits about gas mileage, I want reliability and towing capacity. 98% of owners of these trucks will never tow over 8k. Most put stupid lifts on them and big tires. Small dick syndrome. Deep discounts are ONLY for things that do NOT sell. When is the last time the 4runner ever had 0% financing or deep discounts?? Never, why because they sell. Go buy your Sierra 1500 with the 3:31 axel for 58k plus tax, and sell it 4 years later for 32k.

I am new to forums and am using this medium for advice. Next April I am purchasing my dream car, 1991 Acura NSX. This is relevant because I currently own a condo, have no kids, and don’t camp. The initial reason I am purchasing a truck is to transport the NSX from my military base in CA, to home in Utah. The Acura would easily make the trip but I don’t want to put the miles on it.

Additionally, my doctor informed me I should own a vehicle where my hips are higher than my kneess. Consequently, I am selling my sedan. I’m 6’2 with 37” leg length. I recently had my second total hip replacement this past Tuesday.

I have been an avid Toyota/lexus owner for the past 15 years, so having a Toyota truck seems to natural progression. I thought about purchasing a Tacoma, but they look small. I’m wondering if one of you could give me advice on which particular Toyota to get. I like the looks of the off ea, but was told they ride harsh. Comfort is important to me, as is leg room. I also like as many comfort features as possible. I’m looking at 2014 as the minimum and 2018 max year.

I appreciate your advice.

Good day. I am new to form saying this is my first post. I am primarily using this as a medium to get advice regarding a future truck purchase.

April of next year I plan to purchase my dream sports car. I have two reasons for wanting a truck. One, to pull the sports car from my military base back to my place of residence. Additionally, I Recently had a second total hip replacement and my doctor has informed me it would be a good idea to have a vehicle where the seating position keeps my hips higher than my knees.

I live in a condo and I really don’t have a use for a super large truck or anything with extreme towing capacity. Within the next four years I plan to purchase property in the mountains. Consequently, I will sell my sedan to purchase a truck.

I have owned Toyota and Lexus vehicles for the past 15 years. Timmi person a Toyota truck would be the most practical obvious purchase. I am 6’2” tall with about a 37” leg length. I would the truck to be roomy, and have some nice comfort and safety features. In looking somewhere I the years of 2014-2018. I like the reviews of the TRD types, but heard they rode rough. Any suggestions?

I appreciate your time.

I just purchased a 2019 tundra Trd sport double cab because of reliability and upgraded suspension and 4wd with a 6.5 ft bed and I am a mechanic going on 20 years and can tell you that ford and Gm have transmission issues at around 150k+ that I see all the time not to mention fuel pump issues as low as 100k+ these are on full size trucks not to mention ignition issues with fords dodge have more rear axle bearings go out than any other

And tundra may get the worst gas mileage but mechanicly best all around and I have never changed fuel pump on any tundra or sequoia
Or had transmissions go out at 150k

No rear differential go out on any truck but uncommon on tundras but still there

The only big expense I see for all is the catalytic converters go out but this is common on all makes and models

And my biggest complaint is that even 4wd all other trucks are made with true locking rear differential but the tundra is only available with 2wd and open end electronically controlled to trick computer for locking rear end

I’ve owned Toyota tundras since 2007 when the body style changed, I’ve also had a 2005. These trucks run solid, as of 2019, I’ve had eight of these(different year models). I’ve never had a major issue with any of them. I’ve worked these trucks fairly hard, pulling more than recommended for long miles and hours in hot weather. The Tundra has never let me down, I’ve owned other makes and models, will never look back(ever). I respect the QDR(Quality, Dependability and Reliability) that the Toyota Way stands by. This my personal experiences with Toyota products.. Thank You Toyota

It always makes me laugh when Toyota dishers slam the Tundra. I bought my 2001 Tundra new and I NEVER had a problem with it.... still operates like new. It is a bulldog that in passing gear with a max. load can whip by anything on the road. You jealous people can keep your fords and chevy trucks.

This is my second tundra (2005,2012) as long as you do regular maintenance you should never have any problems and I will never o n anything but a TUNDRA

I bought a 2016 limited CM used with 12k miles on it. $29k. Traded in my aluminum body junk F150 for it. I absolutely love the tundra. It’s a monster. I would load my trailer with 6 atvs and go north. By the time I got to the top of one hill in my ford I was going 35 with the flashers on. Same hill and loaded trailer with the tundra I was going 90. The fuel mileage is horrible that’s for sure but it’s so comfortable I will keep it forever. It’s bulletproof. I don’t drive the speed limit anywhere I always drive fast and this tundra just seems like it’s daring me to go a little faster. There’s not much on the line that can take this truck. My son was learning to drive. We were at a red light. I look over there’s a Silverado next to me. I pushed the tow/haul button and said to my son as soon as that light turns green punch it. No way a Chevy heap of crap is going to beat us. We had student driver stickers on the door. Light went green my kid put the pedal to the floor. We were gone. Next light, the guy finally catches up and yells out the window “student driver my a$$.” Lmao I love that truck. Bring on the million miles.

Yeah sounds to me like a made up story. I never saw a tundra either. Sounded like he could cry and lie and someone would give him a tundra. Dirtbag!!

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Have had a number of Toyota trucks over the years with very few problems and all had over 200,000 miles before we parted. Was seriously looking to go to the Sierra 1500 with the 6.2 for towing, but! After seeing 6 major recalls for the GM 1500 series trucks and being rated at the very bottom for their reliability for all trucks, I started rethinking. The last straw was the new GM truck engines with DFM (6.2) are all highly recommended to use premium fuel. GM says you can use regular but then you will lose 2 to 3 MPG. So owning a new 6.2 and having to spend an average of $0.60 a gal more for fuel or lose the 3mpgwas not impressive.. Do the math! The Tundra less expensive for annual fuel cost (figured 12,000 per year for both) if you use premium in the GM 6.2 to get 19mpg. If you use regular in the 6.2 it will be at 16 to 17mpg, same as the Tundra. So now it was a wash for mileage or less expensive to run the Tundra with regular vs Premium fuel in the 6.2. The choice became much easier now. I went with reliability and Safety, saved money and purchased the Tundra.

I'm on my 2nd Tundra! First was a base model it lasted about 300,000 miles before any issues outside of normal maintenence. My current Tundra is an SR5 Crew Cab 5.7. I wanted the 5.7 because of its power and reliability. I'll never own another truck. It's never let me down. Yesterday I drove it on my property in over a foot of snow in 4L and it handled it well. It takes 3 mins to warm up in the winter and the seats are comfortable for those long road trips! Back up camera and sound system is decent. The axle Joints have 3 grease fittings to keep your joint healthy. I haven't seen that on a Ford or Chevy. The paint job is tough. My 08 started to show rust in 2019 on the tail gate but that was from use. Buy Toyota, it supports more American businesses than the American named competitors! I'll have my 2016 for 10yrs and I guarantee it'll run the same as it did when it was built! My trucks have always ran well with no change with age. No leaks, no oil burning. Yes, sometimes you'll add a half quart of oil, but that's after 5000 miles. I run full synthetic OW20 and change every 10000. No need to add a different intake. The air box is equivalent to an after after market one. Leave the motor alone!

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