While the outdated infotainment system of the 2018 Toyota Tundra and ride quality tempt this owner towards an upgrade, he fears the potential downsides of dealership repairs and diminished reliability.
Joe Denver, a Toyota Tundra enthusiast, has ignited a firestorm of debate on the Toyota Tundra Enthusiasts' forum with his recent post. Joe, the owner of a meticulously maintained, low-mileage 2018 Tundra Limited, finds himself at a crossroads. The allure of the new 2024 Tundra's tech features - particularly the upgraded infotainment system - is undeniable. Yet, Joe harbors a deep-seated apprehension about the potential pitfalls of trading in his trusty truck for a new one.
"Is it worth it to trade my 2018 Toyota Tundra Limited for a new 2024 Tundra? My Limited 2018 Tundra Limited has only 26,000 miles and I bought it new. It's basically a creampuff. The only thing I don't like is the stereo sound and the infotainment screen. The ride could be a little better, but not a big deal. I love that it's reliable! Not sure I can stomach taking a car in for repairs even if they are under warranty. Once they start working on your vehicle you start getting scratches, rattles, and a checkered Carfax. Let me know what you think," he wrote in the forum.
On the one hand, Joe acknowledges the shortcomings of his current vehicle. The infotainment system, by his own admission, feels outdated, and the ride quality leaves a bit to be desired. The promise of a modern, feature-rich cabin in the 2024 Tundra is undeniably tempting. Larger touchscreens, faster processing speeds, and wireless connectivity for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto all paint a picture of a more comfortable and connected driving experience.
However, Joe's love for his Tundra is deeply rooted in its reliability. With only 26,000 miles on the odometer, his truck is a testament to Toyota's renowned reputation for building vehicles that last. The thought of relinquishing this dependability for the unknown territory of a new vehicle, even with a warranty, fills Joe with anxiety. His fear centers around the potential disruption and inconvenience caused by dealership repairs. Stories of scratches acquired during service, rattles developing after repairs, and a tarnished Carfax history all fuel Joe's apprehension.
Joe's predicament resonates with many car owners who find themselves torn between the allure of the latest technology and the comfort of a proven, reliable vehicle. This internal struggle between "tech-lust" and "trust" is a hot topic, particularly as car manufacturers churn out ever-more sophisticated infotainment systems and driver-assistance features.
The responses to Joe's post on the forum have been varied. Some users have enthusiastically championed the upgrade, highlighting the significant advancements in the 2024 Tundra's technology. Others have echoed Joe's concerns, sharing their own negative experiences with dealership repairs. Still others have offered a more nuanced perspective, suggesting that Joe research the specific reliability record of the 2024 Tundra and carefully weigh the potential benefits against the risks.
How has Toyota improved its infotainment screen and stereo in the 3rd generation compared to the 2nd generation trucks?
Toyota introduced a completely new infotainment system called the "Toyota Audio Multimedia" system with the release of the 2022 Tundra, which is considered the 3rd generation. Here's how it compares to the 2nd generation system based on reviews and press releases. Let's talk about Toyota Tundra's new larger and higher resolution screen, its improved user interface, faster processing and wireless capability, and Toyota Tundra's new cloud-based navigation and over-the-air updates.
The new system offers a much larger touchscreen, available in up to 14 inches, compared to the smaller screens on 2nd gen trucks. The resolution is also improved for sharper visuals.
The layout is redesigned with a focus on ease of use. The main menu is on the left side of the screen for easy access, and even submenus are designed for quick navigation back to the home screen. Buttons are larger and spaced out for less accidental presses.
The new system boasts faster processing speeds for smoother operation. It also introduces wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for a cleaner phone-free experience.
The new system utilizes cloud-based navigation with features like Google Point-of-Interest search and real-time traffic updates. Additionally, the software can be updated over-the-air to keep it fresh with new features and bug fixes.
Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to trade in his beloved Tundra rests solely with Joe. This forum post, however, serves as a valuable reminder that car ownership is often an emotional investment, and the choice between the thrill of new technology and the comfort of proven reliability can be a difficult one.
What do you think Joe should do? Please, click the red link to write your comment and participate in the discussion.
For conclusion, I like Zapp Brannigan's comment under Joe's forum post. He writes, "Do what makes you happy, just make sure you’re doing it for the right reasons. Rampant consumerism destroys a lot of wealth in this country for no real gain aside from a fleeting hit of dopamine from a new “thing” that will feel old in a few short years."
Consider these 3 factors before buying a double cab vs CrewMax Toyota Tundra TRD Pro.
Armen Hareyan is the founder and the Editor in Chief of Torque News. He founded TorqueNews.com in 2010, which since then has been publishing expert news and analysis about the automotive industry. He can be reached at Torque News Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube. He has more than a decade of expertise in the automotive industry with a special interest in Tesla and electric vehicles.
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We buy Tundras for many…
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In reply to I have a 2017 Tundra 1793… by Rodney vojcik (not verified)
We buy Tundras for many years of bullet proof reliability. Why would anyone want to make the sacrifice, going with a less reliable model? My 2019 Tundra has 91K on it. Oil changes and a new set of tires is all I’ve added. Plan to keep driving mine for many years to come. Love it!
Keep your current truck. My…
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Keep your current truck. My new 2024 has been a pIA.
Wish I had my old truck back. Never had issues.
I'm a retired Automotive…
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I'm a retired Automotive technician. With 30 YEARS in fleet service, City of Los Angeles ,9 yrs BMW , 8 yrs Fiat and Alfa . Toyota makes some great vehicles. Though they have made some big mistakes ,Take u r time and do u r research .!!!
Keep 2018 you will not have…
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Keep 2018 you will not have the problems that the new trucks come with unreliable engine
I have a 2015 limited double…
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I have a 2015 limited double cab. Love my truck, the only thing that stunk was the stero. Kept the stock head unit and upgraded to a digital sound processor with amp, speakers and sub. Also added to wireless android audio. At 65,000 miles I wouldn't trade my truck in for a v6 turbo any day.
You should upgrade your…
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You should upgrade your suspension, infotainment system and sound system. Boom there is your perfect truck, it's even green because you keep your old truck that you know and love.
Don't do it. I regret…
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Don't do it. I regret everyday buying this 1794. I'll trade ya. I have 22k today.
I have a 2003 PRERUNNER with…
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I have a 2003 PRERUNNER with 95k miles. It has a cassette and cd player . I had the bed linuxed when I got it and I still haul gravel, dirt and mulch. I use my smart phone and garmin for trips, keep the truck!!
Keep it! Those trucks are…
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Keep it! Those trucks are bulletproof. I have a 2021 and upgraded the sound system with a Sony 9500 and upgraded all the speakers with a Rockford Fosgate amp and dual subs. Total integration with all the vehicle controls. Sounds tons better than any stock system. Not to mention the new ones don't have the V8 and they don't look good until you lift them and put on bigger wheels.
The 5.7 engine is the best…
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The 5.7 engine is the best ever made by Toyota. There is no way the V-6 hybrid will top the 5.7 reliability. To trade for the infotainment system would be a big mistake.
Well Joe...I get where your…
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Well Joe...I get where your coming from. I had a new 2021 tundra limited with less than 10,000 miles on it and traded it in on a 2023 4runner. I miss that truck but at least the 4runner is built in Japan. If the new tundra was made in Japan then I'd think about buying it. The new ones are overpriced considerably. Pass....
Keep your V-8! I myself have…
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Keep your V-8! I myself have a 2013 crewmax that I love, if you're not happy with some of the little things... Make improvements 😁. You can upgrade the infotainment center (bigger screen and apple/ Android Auto), upgrade the suspension (and you can get bigger tires if you want). And here's the BIG one: You want more power and torque?... Through a TRD supercharger on it (oddly enough still doesn't change the gas mileage) and then you're in TRX territory. For me the 6's just haven't shown the reliability yet when you have V8's that have over a million miles on them. Mine's at 209k and still purrs like a kitten and can pull over a house! 😁
I sold my 2012 tundra 4x2…
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I sold my 2012 tundra 4x2 crew max and bought 2020 tundra 4x2 crew max. Big improvement in electronics. Like this truck. I have the 5.7 liter engine. Gas guzzler . Thought about up grading to 24 but don’t want 4 cylinder engine. Don’t know reliability of 6 turbo. I see advertised $56 to $58 2024 locally but did not check engine options.
Keep the 2018. The…
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Keep the 2018. The drivetrain is a proven, highly reliable system. With respect to the 2024 Tundra, there have been multiple issues from spun bearings to rattling windows. The new one is not made as well.
I have a 2017 Limited double…
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I have a 2017 Limited double cab, and I wouldn’t dream of getting rid of it, especially for a third generation Tundra. I will take reliability over tech gadgets any day of the week. I am appalled that Toyota didn’t offer the bulletproof 5.7 L in their new lineup, and the fact that the new Tundra looks like a Silverado. Hard pass….
Keep what you have. I just…
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Keep what you have. I just traded my 22 Tundra Crewax SR 5 with off road package, couldn't find a used gen 2 at a fair price so i had to switch to Silverado. Wish I had kept my 2015. Fuel mileage was terrible, no where close to what they said. For the ride, install Rough Country struts and rear shocks,you'll be amazed. Good luck.
I wouldn’t do it I have a…
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I wouldn’t do it
I have a 2021 mines and SR5, but it’s the exact same truck color and everything
I also have a 2023 4 x 4 tundra with the new V6 turbo charged
I like to 2021 way better
It doesn’t have the big screen and the leather seats, but it rides better and is way more sporty looking to me
Keep It. My 2007 has 88K…
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Keep It. My 2007 has 88K miles. No fancy electronic crap to break or be obsolete in 3 years. No touchpad that forces me to take my eyes off the road. Just buttons and knobs. Simple and reliable, just what a truck is for. Buy good vehicles, maintain them, and drive them until they are classics. Save your money for your retirement, you're going to need it friend.
Completely sympathize with…
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Completely sympathize with your dilemma. Had a cherry 2007 Tundra SR5 RWD that was running great and had some nice upgrades (wheels, lights, tonneau cover, etc.). Still reasonably low mileage (130k), pulled a 22' boat, and got me from FLA to WYO's dirt roads every year for some fall fishing. Finally broke down and replaced it with a 2024 Tacoma TRD OR.
Why? 1) Still got a very fair price for the Tundra, it didn't owe me anything. 2) Love the ride quality of the new coil springs and shocks. 3) Tech is way beyond anything I need. 4) Towing features. 5) Power seats. My advice: step up.
I have a 2017 sr5 Trd pro…
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I have a 2017 sr5 Trd pro with 119k never needed any serious work still runs drive and starts up as it were brand new. Keep the cream puff you’ll be happier with a reliable v8 at 28k that truck will last you the next 10-15 years and always be worth something. I would sell it private party for maximum outcome not trade it in.
I have a 2019 Limited…
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I have a 2019 Limited CrewMax with 27k. Not worth getting a new 2024 that will cost over 65k (I paid 42k at 0% interest) You will incure another 5 years of monthly payments at 7% interest. You can change the infotainment system in your 2018 for under $1000 and have a comparable or better system. You didn't buy you Tundra for gas mileage, so the extra 3-4 mpg in the 2024 isn't a game changer. Your 5.8 V8 is a proven work horse and will last longer than you if serviced properly.
Trailgridpro.com is your…
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Trailgridpro.com is your best friend for updates to the infotainment, Alpine Halo 11" is the way to go!
DON'T DO IT, JOE!! NO !!…
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DON'T DO IT, JOE!! NO !!
Keep your reliable PROVEN Tundra. My 2023 Tundra Platinum has been in dealership for 5 weeks , awaiting a new replacement ENGINE. It only has 15K miles!!! It's been in shop for broken drivers seat 3 times before. Plus other issues.
NOT A HAPPY CAMPER!
Got a low mileage 2018 DC,…
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Got a low mileage 2018 DC, will never let it go. New ones are junk.
I drove a new tundra with…
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I drove a new tundra with the hybrid system. Do that before you make a decision. It was amazing.
I would keep what you have,…
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I would keep what you have, proven reliability track record, depreciation would be significant and you can monitor reliability issues with current model. Tech is nice but reliability will always trump the latest gadgets, not to mention the latest gen. Tundra came up really short with no significant increase in mpg. I would expect much more of an improvement before considering a move up to the latest gen.
I bought a new 2018 Tundra…
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I bought a new 2018 Tundra my fourth Tundra. 40000 miles &still reliable. I'm keeping mine. Looks like to many issues with the redesign.And the gas mileage isn't much better for the$$.
I'm in the same boat with a…
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I'm in the same boat with a 2018 Tacoma TRD OR with 26K miles. I didn't get the technology package and hate the HVAC manual control. I can never get the temp right. I also have a '23 Rav4 Hybrid with automatic climate control and everything else. The temps are perfect. A Tundra won't fit in my garage, or⁸ I would have one.
You mention reliability,…
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You mention reliability, however, at 26,000 miles I would suggest you haven't really tested reliability. My 2020 has 54,000 miles and would expect that most trucks wouldn't have serious issues at even that point. I think reliability starts to be tested at 90k -100k+. And since we own Toyota's, we expect 200k plus before testing it's reliability!!
You also mention ride quality. My 2020 became a brutal ride after about 30k miles. I did myself a favor and threw those crap stock Bilstein shocks as far away as I could and replaced them with Rancho adjustables. Kinda expensive? Yes. But way cheaper than a new truck!
I also have an ‘18 Limited,…
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I also have an ‘18 Limited, with 33,000 miles that I bought new. I’d keep it over a new one, just for the drivetrain. Gotta love a V8!
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