While the outdated infotainment system of the 2018 Toyota Tundra and ride quality tempt this owner towards an upgrade, he fears the potential downsides of dealership repairs and diminished reliability.
Joe Denver, a Toyota Tundra enthusiast, has ignited a firestorm of debate on the Toyota Tundra Enthusiasts' forum with his recent post. Joe, the owner of a meticulously maintained, low-mileage 2018 Tundra Limited, finds himself at a crossroads. The allure of the new 2024 Tundra's tech features - particularly the upgraded infotainment system - is undeniable. Yet, Joe harbors a deep-seated apprehension about the potential pitfalls of trading in his trusty truck for a new one.
"Is it worth it to trade my 2018 Toyota Tundra Limited for a new 2024 Tundra? My Limited 2018 Tundra Limited has only 26,000 miles and I bought it new. It's basically a creampuff. The only thing I don't like is the stereo sound and the infotainment screen. The ride could be a little better, but not a big deal. I love that it's reliable! Not sure I can stomach taking a car in for repairs even if they are under warranty. Once they start working on your vehicle you start getting scratches, rattles, and a checkered Carfax. Let me know what you think," he wrote in the forum.
On the one hand, Joe acknowledges the shortcomings of his current vehicle. The infotainment system, by his own admission, feels outdated, and the ride quality leaves a bit to be desired. The promise of a modern, feature-rich cabin in the 2024 Tundra is undeniably tempting. Larger touchscreens, faster processing speeds, and wireless connectivity for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto all paint a picture of a more comfortable and connected driving experience.
However, Joe's love for his Tundra is deeply rooted in its reliability. With only 26,000 miles on the odometer, his truck is a testament to Toyota's renowned reputation for building vehicles that last. The thought of relinquishing this dependability for the unknown territory of a new vehicle, even with a warranty, fills Joe with anxiety. His fear centers around the potential disruption and inconvenience caused by dealership repairs. Stories of scratches acquired during service, rattles developing after repairs, and a tarnished Carfax history all fuel Joe's apprehension.
Joe's predicament resonates with many car owners who find themselves torn between the allure of the latest technology and the comfort of a proven, reliable vehicle. This internal struggle between "tech-lust" and "trust" is a hot topic, particularly as car manufacturers churn out ever-more sophisticated infotainment systems and driver-assistance features.
The responses to Joe's post on the forum have been varied. Some users have enthusiastically championed the upgrade, highlighting the significant advancements in the 2024 Tundra's technology. Others have echoed Joe's concerns, sharing their own negative experiences with dealership repairs. Still others have offered a more nuanced perspective, suggesting that Joe research the specific reliability record of the 2024 Tundra and carefully weigh the potential benefits against the risks.
How has Toyota improved its infotainment screen and stereo in the 3rd generation compared to the 2nd generation trucks?
Toyota introduced a completely new infotainment system called the "Toyota Audio Multimedia" system with the release of the 2022 Tundra, which is considered the 3rd generation. Here's how it compares to the 2nd generation system based on reviews and press releases. Let's talk about Toyota Tundra's new larger and higher resolution screen, its improved user interface, faster processing and wireless capability, and Toyota Tundra's new cloud-based navigation and over-the-air updates.
The new system offers a much larger touchscreen, available in up to 14 inches, compared to the smaller screens on 2nd gen trucks. The resolution is also improved for sharper visuals.
The layout is redesigned with a focus on ease of use. The main menu is on the left side of the screen for easy access, and even submenus are designed for quick navigation back to the home screen. Buttons are larger and spaced out for less accidental presses.
The new system boasts faster processing speeds for smoother operation. It also introduces wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for a cleaner phone-free experience.
The new system utilizes cloud-based navigation with features like Google Point-of-Interest search and real-time traffic updates. Additionally, the software can be updated over-the-air to keep it fresh with new features and bug fixes.
Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to trade in his beloved Tundra rests solely with Joe. This forum post, however, serves as a valuable reminder that car ownership is often an emotional investment, and the choice between the thrill of new technology and the comfort of proven reliability can be a difficult one.
What do you think Joe should do? Please, click the red link to write your comment and participate in the discussion.
For conclusion, I like Zapp Brannigan's comment under Joe's forum post. He writes, "Do what makes you happy, just make sure you’re doing it for the right reasons. Rampant consumerism destroys a lot of wealth in this country for no real gain aside from a fleeting hit of dopamine from a new “thing” that will feel old in a few short years."
Consider these 3 factors before buying a double cab vs CrewMax Toyota Tundra TRD Pro.
Armen Hareyan is the founder and the Editor in Chief of Torque News. He founded TorqueNews.com in 2010, which since then has been publishing expert news and analysis about the automotive industry. He can be reached at Torque News Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube. He has more than a decade of expertise in the automotive industry with a special interest in Tesla and electric vehicles.
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Had a Tundra for several…
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Had a Tundra for several years. Good dependable truck.. but got a Ford F150. And love it. Much better than tundra all around and 22.5 mpg around town. Tundra was 15 at best
The dilema of the spoiled…
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The dilema of the spoiled American.
Should I be spoiled to the extreme and desire a larger screen to watch the rest of the world burn and flood? or should I keep on wasting my money blind and stupid? Wow, what a headache.
I have a 2008 Tundra 4x4…
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I have a 2008 Tundra 4x4 with 68000 miles. Would not trade it for 2024 model. For one thing, I don't think I've put enough miles on it yet to assess reliability. My truck was quite affordable when bought. Today's prices are absurdly out of line.
Keep that Tundra! I have the…
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Keep that Tundra!
I have the same truck, same colour but a 2021.
It’s the last of the strong Tundras.
Toyotas new pricing strategy along with the low price they will offer you on a trade will leave you a lot poorer.
Keep that truck and take good care of her.
If I were making the…
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If I were making the decision, without regard to finances, I would keep the older model. The infotainment system is nice, but Toyota got greedy here and is charging a subscription for several features. If you are anti-subscriptions, it is not worth the upgrade.
I have a 2017 1794 Edition…
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I have a 2017 1794 Edition with 107,000 miles, purchased new. It has been truly reliable, only recently replacing the water pump. While I agree, the infotainment is dated, I’m not willing to blow $70k on the new version. I plan to keep my 2017 for many years to come.
Yes all that tech will come…
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Yes all that tech will come in handy while you're waiting for the tow truck to arrive
Hey joe, I can certainly…
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Hey joe, I can certainly understand the feeling, but I just can't trade in my 2006 F150 with the triaton v8. This Echo boost stuff scares me to death.To many horror stories, and I know every inch of that V8, not to talk about the money.My truck has 66 thousand on it, not one problem, yes it drives like a truck, sounds like a truck, the new stuff would be nice, but I'll keep it.
Keep your 2018, I wish I…
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Keep your 2018, I wish I would have kept my 2017. I traded mine in for a 2022 had it less than a year and traded it for a 2023. Wish I would have kept my 2017. They just don't have the get up and go like the V8.
I have a 2015 TRD Pro 240000…
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I have a 2015 TRD Pro 240000 miles. Bought an Alpine head unit, made the stock speakers sound 100% better. My concern with the new Tundra is if a turbo goes out it goes to limp mode, no more 4 wheel drive. I work the pipelines, sometimes in the Appalachian Mountains, this scenario would not be good. TOYOTA should have kept the 5.7 as an option. Just my option.
I own a 2006 Tundra SR5…
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I own a 2006 Tundra SR5 double-cab with about 93,000 miles on it. Fully paid for for many years now. No vehicle payments to be concerned about, so I, not the bank, own it free and clear. With proper maintenance and repairs, the truck just keeps going and going and going. I've had a camper shell, backup camera and monitor, bluetooth and microphone systems installed. So, it's technologically updated. It needs all the rubber trim replaced and a good paint job, which will probably cost $15,000.00. But that's better than being in debt for $70,000.00 or so to the bank for a new truck, not to mention higher registration, sales tax, insurance, etc. To conclude, as I've told my kids over and over, if you take care of your vehicle, it will take care of you.
I own a 2006 Tundra SR5…
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I own a 2006 Tundra SR5 double-cab with about 93,000 miles on it. Fully paid for for many years now. No vehicle payments to be concerned about, so I, not the bank, own it free and clear. With proper maintenance and repairs, the truck just keeps going and going and going. I've had a camper shell, backup camera and monitor, bluetooth and microphone systems installed. So, it's technologically updated. It needs all the rubber trim replaced and a good paint job, which will probably cost $15,000.00. But that's better than being in debt for $70,000.00 or so to the bank for a new truck, not to mention higher registration, sales tax, insurance, etc. To conclude, as I've told my kids over and over, if you take care of your vehicle, it will take care of you.
I guess you've never heard…
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I guess you've never heard of lemons, recalls, after market stereos, first owner depreciation and pollution from production. Getting rid of a good vehicle because the newer vehicle is glitzier is a decision many have come to regret.
I, roo, am torn. I have the…
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I, roo, am torn. I have the exact same scenario, 2018 with 28,000 on the dial. I love the new tundra for its expected MPG, but would lean towards only purchasing the imax version. But the reliability and documented toughness of the 5.7 motor keeps me in it just a bit longer, until there is an absolute decisive document on the contrary.
Upgrade to aftermarket Tesla…
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Upgrade to aftermarket Tesla style android head unit with dsp plug and play units are available that crush the oem trash same goes for the shocks and just about anything you want to upgrade on your rig. Do some research before hand and have a better the oem truck
Keep the 2018 its…
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Keep the 2018 its practically brand new! It has another 980,000 miles left in it! The new wears off pretty fast! Unless you really need to get rid of some money
If all you want is a new…
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If all you want is a new infotainment system. I would upgrade the stereo you have now. Look into the alpine ilx-f511. It's a 11 inch screen and it fits the center console so much better . Going aftermarket is so much better. Plus while your at it you can upgrade door speakers and amplifier for a much better sound . And still be cheaper than going in on a new truck
Trade it for a 2021 ,0r 2020…
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Trade it for a 2021 ,0r 2020 a few better features, but still the same great truck
I feel that putting twin…
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I feel that putting twin turbos on a v-6 may lead to a drop in reliability, even for a Toyota. I own a 2011 with a 5.7 v-8, 140,000 miles, and don't feel that I would ever consider another Toyota. I also buy a truck for it's practicality, not for all the newfangled accessories. KEEP YOUR 2018.
Joe, Please don’t trade…
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Joe, Please don’t trade your truck, I think you’ll regret it ! Instead, why not spend $1,000 and upgrade your infotainment system. Best wishes!
Keep it. The V8 is more…
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Keep it. The V8 is more reliable than a twin turbo V6.
I also have a 2018 tundra,…
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I also have a 2018 tundra, and don't want a new truck put money into changing the things that bug you and remember toyotas have a high resale value as they last longer than most other trucks
Joe, I live in New England…
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Joe,
I live in New England and own a 2011 Tundra. I use it move firewood / pull my boat, the truck has 250k+ miles on it and going strong.
I have a difficult time buying a 6 cylinder turbo to replace what 8 strong cylinders have been doing for me so well, for many reliable years. Truthfully, the new technology doesn’t interest me.
Talk about reliability, I…
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Talk about reliability, I own 5 Toyotas! My 2003 4runner has just turned 300,000 miles and ne er a problem so I know what you're dealing with! I would love to have the new technology but I just don't think it's worth it!
Keep the 2018. Infotainment…
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Keep the 2018. Infotainment can be upgraded, ride quality can be upgraded with suspension and tires. Quality and reliability are huge factors to be considered. I wouldn't part with my 2017 Tundra with 75,000 miles for the new Chevy look alike Tundra with unknown and questionable reliability. The new generation needs time to prove itself as reliable as the older gens.
Don't the new ones are…
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Don't the new ones are terrible. Lots of blown engines already. People have gone thru 3 engine in 60k mile. Not reliable.
I KNOW HOW JOE IS FEELING,…
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I KNOW HOW JOE IS FEELING, BECAUSE I DO HAVE A 2010 LIMITED TUNDRA 71000 MILES, THE MILEAGE ON THE 2024 TUNDRA IS ABOUT THE SAME SO WHY CHANGED IT, AND I AM NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
You prefer a better …
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You prefer a better "infotainment system"? That's a reason to buy a new truck? Saddle up for a sky-high new truck payment, increased insurance payment, all the present day pitfalls of recalls that come with today's new vehicles, AND, the instant depreciation of your new truck the moment you drive it off the dealer lot. Buy a replacement upgrade for your existing audio system! I own a 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited with 87000 miles and I wouldn't think of trading it in for any of today's ugly equivalents for which I don't even think there are any! Yes, I've spent some money ona couple of repairs, but the cost of those repairs is fractional compared to the cost to find a comparable sedan among today's offerings. Don't you have something more worthwhile on which to spend your money, or are you more impressed with "infotainment systems"?
4,000 miles deiving average…
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4,000 miles deiving average in a year. You aren't in it enough for the infotainment system to matter.
Reliability is fundamental. Stick with the old reliable and not the new flashy marketing hype
Keep the old. I had a 22…
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Keep the old. I had a 22 Tundra that at 30000 miles the turbo crapped out and took 3 weeks to get all the parts. The new infotainment system isn't all that great either. Sound was marginal and it kept loosing my favorite stations
The new generation is not one to keep past warranty. I ended up trading for a different brand.. very disappointed with the new stuff. There isn't one manufacturer that makes a long haul reliable gas powered turbo on the market in my opinion
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