Navigating the world of electric vehicles (EVs) comes with many unexpected experiences, some of which can be unlikeable surprises. One such situation recently emerged for Shannon Drayton, a 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E owner, who found herself in a perplexing and frustrating scenario.
Shannon shared her story in the Mustang Mach-E Owners Facebook group:
"The dealership is wanting $695 to replace my Mustang Mach-E’s 12V battery. Last week, my car got stuck in an update and had to be towed. Ford that day said remotely my 12V battery was healthy at 94%. What’s up with this, and what’s up with the cost of this new battery? Seems excessive. I’m not sure I trust what’s going on. My Ford Mustang Mach-E is above 45,000 miles and is a 2021 model."
This situation brings to mind another frustrating dealership ordeal, where a 2019 Chevy Colorado Z71 owner was left without his truck for nearly three weeks over what should have been a one-day repair - only to have it break down again on the way home. Just like the Mach-E owner's unexpected battery bill, this Chevy owner's experience highlights how dealerships can sometimes turn straightforward fixes into prolonged, costly headaches. If you've ever found yourself at the mercy of a service department that keeps pushing back timelines or handing you bills that don’t add up, you'll definitely want to see how this story unfolded.
An Ongoing 12V Battery Problem in EVs
Shannon's case isn't an isolated incident. Many EV owners, from the Ford Mustang Mach-E to the Volkswagen ID.Buzz, have reported frustrating experiences related to their 12V battery systems. If you've ever wondered how a dead 12V battery could leave you stranded in an EV with no clear way to jump-start it, you'll relate to this owner’s experience with the ID.Buzz, where a hidden battery location made a simple fix an absolute nightmare.
This raises an important question: Should EV owners be more cautious about how they manage their vehicle’s battery health? Some Mustang Mach-E drivers have been left wondering whether they're unintentionally causing long-term battery degradation. A debate rages on about what charging habits are best, and this deep dive into whether keeping your Mach-E at 90% or 80% is truly the best practice might change your perspective.
The Mustang Mach-E: A Story Relationship
The Ford Mustang Mach-E has been a revolutionary entry into the EV market, but it's not without its growing pains. Some owners initially had doubts about the Mach-E’s performance and overall experience, but after revisiting the vehicle, many found it to be better than they first gave it credit for. If you’re second-guessing your own experience, you might find this long-term review of the Mach-E particularly eye-opening.
For others, however, the Mustang Mach-E is a dream come true: a wild, electrified take on the classic Mustang DNA. Enthusiasts who love the thrill of performance EVs should take a look at how the 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT delivers a driving experience unlike anything else in Ford’s lineup.
And if you’re still on the fence about whether the Mach-E can truly live up to the Mustang name, this first-hand account of a test drive might make you rethink your stance.
12V Battery Failures Across EV Brands
The issue Shannon experienced with her Mach-E isn't just a Ford problem. It's something that plagues many EV owners. Hyundai Ioniq 5 drivers, for instance, have reported waking up to a completely dead car because of a faulty 12V system. One Ioniq 5 owner learned a hard lesson when dealing with Hyundai service and shared some crucial advice for fellow EV owners.
Similarly, a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV owner faced a recurring 12V battery issue that left them needing a boost every morning, leading to an urgent dealership intervention.
And it’s not just newer EVs either. Even older electric models like the Chevrolet Bolt have had their fair share of bizarre battery-related surprises. Imagine charging your EV overnight, only to wake up and see your full charge reading just 12 miles of range.
Final Thoughts: What Should Mach-E Owners Do?
Shannon’s case is a reminder that, as advanced as EVs are, they still rely on old-school 12V batteries that can fail in the most inconvenient ways. Whether it’s due to a software issue, an update gone wrong, or simply bad luck, these problems can be frustrating and expensive.
If you’re a Mach-E owner, or any EV driver, pay close attention to your 12V battery’s health. Consider investing in a portable jump starter, and if your dealership tries to hit you with an unexpected $695 bill, don’t be afraid to push back and ask questions.
And if you’re still questioning whether the Mustang Mach-E is worth all the hassle, take a moment to read how one owner went from skeptical to impressed after giving the Mach-E another shot. It might just change your mind.
Armen Hareyan is the founder and the Editor in Chief of Torque News. He founded TorqueNews.com in 2010, which since then has been publishing expert news and analysis about the automotive industry. He can be reached at Torque News Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube. He has more than a decade of expertise in the automotive industry with a special interest in Tesla and electric vehicles.
Image source: Torque News Mustang Mach-E review, and Grok.
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Not sure what your…
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Not sure what your experience with 12V batteries in most any car but I find @ 50k miles/3 years is pretty much the time time for replacement.
How can one tell if a 12v…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
How can one tell if a 12v battery is "94"% healthy. Sounds more like that pertains to the high voltage battery pack.
ICE vehicles are periodic…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
ICE vehicles are periodic very high draw with very challenging heat environment. It gets pretty hot under the hood.
EV's 12v battery use pattern is very different. Lower draw over longer times. Turns out both are really hard on lead acid batteries, but in different ways. Programming to top off the lead acid battery from the traction battery is critical to 12v battery longevity.
My model 3, when it came out, had very short 12v battery lifespans. This was largely fixed with software update after all too many 12v's died a premature death.
You are 100% correct. The…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
You are 100% correct. The 12V battery sometimes only lasts ONE winter before degradation kicks in. So you get 18 months out of it. But 3 years is common.
EVs are also super heavy, so the tire wear is ridiculous. Another expensive cost of EV.
Hydrogen from Toyota and Honda is coming along wonderfully. I'm hoping it shows better promise. 👍
My 2020 Ford Explorer has…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
My 2020 Ford Explorer has 72k miles and the original battery. So this Mach E and other EV 12v battery issue is a weak point for EVs. Automakers need to figure it out.
Experience I've had with all…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
Experience I've had with all my gas Fords and the 2 Nissans we've had is our batteries last about 5-8 years in normal use. However the Fusion Energi we had went through a 12v battery roughly every 2.5 years. The last one left us sit in our driveway 4 days while we worked to gain access to the trunk. Honest, that battery was the size of the old 6volts we could buy back in the 60's. Why Ford ever went with that size and format battery for "starting purposes" hasn't been explained.
Also, we have to wonder, if we have these large battery packs propelling the car, why do we still need a 12volt system for accessories, and how does it actually stay charged ?
Experience I've had with all…
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In reply to Not sure what your… by Beau Reinert (not verified)
Experience I've had with all my gas Fords and the 2 Nissans we've had is our batteries last about 5-8 years in normal use. However the Fusion Enegi we had went through a 12v battery roughly every 2.5 years. The last one left us sit in our driveway 4 days while we worked to gain access to the trunk. Honest, that battery was the size of the old 6volts we could buy back in the 60's. Why Ford ever went with that size and format battery for "starting purposes" hasn't been explained.
So, we have to wonder, if we have large battery packs propelling the car, why do we still need a 12volt system for accessories, and how does it actually stay charged ?
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My 2021 mach e 12v battery starting having problems. I am however in Wisconsin and it was very cold so for a week my car was having all these pop ups and would let me start the car or move to Drive. Quick google search bright me to a 12v battery problem. Was able to go home and charge the battery fully but the problem still existed. I bought a new 12v battery for $240 and the problem went away. Not sure why there was $700 charge for a new battery through the dealership there must have been installation or tow fees attached.
Dealers can have product…
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In reply to My 2021 mach e 12v battery… by Marcos Garcia (not verified)
Dealers can have product markups 100% over non-OEM products.
Had similar problem with 2017 chevy volt. Battery failure was intermittent.
Being an automechanic, the symptoms were typical. EV still needs 12V to energize and launch computer related systems. Simple $150 battery vs $300+ labor at dealer.
Because dealerships price…
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In reply to My 2021 mach e 12v battery… by Marcos Garcia (not verified)
Because dealerships price gouge, that's why.
Another reason not to buy an…
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Another reason not to buy an EV. Same thing happened to my granddaughter’s Rav4. I guess she was lucky. It only cost her $500.
My Tesla Model 3 had a…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Case (not verified)
My Tesla Model 3 had a failing 12v.
$105, in and out of the Tesla dealership in under 20 minutes.
No problems, just a warning on the screen showing it needed to be replaced. Done.
Another reason not to buy an…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Case (not verified)
Another reason not to buy an EV?
Oh yeah, because ICE cars -never- have 12v battery issues. Thank goodness!
SMH
Not like this.
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Indytims (not verified)
Not like this.
The difference to an ICE car…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Indytims (not verified)
The difference to an ICE car is, that a 12v fault could easily be rectified, the car jump started or similar but would still be drive able.
An EV that is being charged overnight, should not have these issues that can only be rectified with dealer intervention, tow truck or similar.
As the EV is being plugged in, it should be an easy fix to trickle charge the 12v battery to run the car operating systems.
I guess the main issue is that the car becomes bricked without this being managed properly.
Right. 4 years is actually…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Indytims (not verified)
Right. 4 years is actually pretty good for a factory installed 12v battery in an ICE vehicle. Don't know why someone wound expect it to last longer in an EV. Now $695 to replace, that's another story.
The RAV4 isn't an EV, so…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Case (not verified)
The RAV4 isn't an EV, so your inclusion merely shows this 12v epidemic is endemic to ALL newer vehicles with more computers than tubes.
Plugging in daily your car and not having a fully charged 12v is a valid reason not to buy any type of car. It's not EVs but a design flaw.
I guess 12v batteries don't…
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In reply to Another reason not to buy an… by Case (not verified)
I guess 12v batteries don't die in a. ICE car, huh?
Nope not today, the…
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Nope not today, the dealership and ultimately the manufacturer should be eating that one!
When our Subaru was 7yo,…
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In reply to Nope not today, the… by GRAMPTEE (not verified)
When our Subaru was 7yo, just outside extended warranty, our 12v died from a systemic problem and Subaru extended the 12v battery to cover a new 12v.
Unfortunately, we had replaced ours 2 weeks prior to receiving the letter🙄
Just more reasons for me NOT…
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Just more reasons for me NOT to buy an ev. That's also not a Mustang, but another poorly styled jellybean suv. My daughter's Chrysler minivan had an issue with her auto start battery. It died, 400.00 to replace it, kept draining her main battery. Once I disconnected the auto start battery from the main battery her issue went away.
Is IS a Mustang for two…
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In reply to Just more reasons for me NOT… by Alan (not verified)
Is IS a Mustang for two reasons: it's currently outselling the ICE Mustang, and it being a "Mustang" provides emission credits that keep the ICE V8 Mustang alive. If you don't like it, that's your opinion and you're welcome to it. But there's a bigger picture to consider. BTW, you're just gonna love the Mustang Mach 4...
This is a tease of a story…
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This is a tease of a story. Where the meat and potatoes. Everything you need to know about the story is in the title. The rest is just repeating the same thing. Ev 12 volt battery system bad. What was the answer from Ford. Common guys do better.
Tease? Or poor writing…
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In reply to This is a tease of a story… by David (not verified)
Tease? Or poor writing skills? “Common guys”? Or un common guys?
I can't speak for bruce, but…
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In reply to Tease? Or poor writing… by Bruce (not verified)
I can't speak for bruce, but I think he meant "Come on, guys" not "common guys". Was probably voice to text error.
So what was wrong with the…
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So what was wrong with the battery and why did it need to be replaced? What caused the problem?
Why replace a battery at 94%…
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In reply to So what was wrong with the… by Mark (not verified)
Why replace a battery at 94% charge? Just reaching for a fix. One guy said pull battery cable 4 a minute to fix?
I would try replacing the…
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In reply to Why replace a battery at 94%… by Ed HOFFMAN (not verified)
I would try replacing the cables before I bought a battery at that price. 94% you would assume the battery itself isn't the issue.
He didn't specify the cause…
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In reply to So what was wrong with the… by Mark (not verified)
He didn't specify the cause of the problem because he is considering another dealership or a service center to fix the 12v battery.
Great job with a decently…
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In reply to He didn't specify the cause… by Armen Hareyan
Great job with a decently written article that gives absolutely zero real information to the reader. We all know 12V batteries fail after about 3 years or so, half that if it's a Jeep, but what is the reader supposed to gain from this article? You're not adding value, you're just adding garbage to an already crowded space. I didn't blame the author, but the folks that should be managing this person they are apparently too busy or too scared to review the article and come to the same conclusion. Please do better.
Pagination