Imagine this: you just bought a brand new 2024 Toyota Tundra truck, and are excited to enjoy it for years to come. Then, at a mere 7,000 miles, the engine lets out a spectacular cough and dies. That's the gut-wrenching scenario facing one truck driver, who posted his story and the accompanying image on 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners Facebook group seeking advice from fellow Tundra owners.
This owner and the local Toyota dealership are now navigating the world of warranties, repairs, and the agonizing question: will my car ever be the same? Join the conversation as we explore this owner's experience, offering advice and support for anyone who's ever faced a major car malfunction. What do you think he should do?
Thought I was safe buying a 2024 but I was not. Pretty certain the engine blew at a little over 7,000 miles. Had it towed to the dealership who said they will be pulling/disassembling the engine over the next few days to determine what happened. They said it should be under warranty (it better) but they will need to open a case with Toyota and have them approve it.
Has anyone attempted to have Toyota replace a truck with a blown engine? (Not the engine, but give you a brand new truck). I was planning on having this truck for 10-15 years. Have a feeling the truck will never be the same after they completely replace the engine. Trying to decide if I want to immediately push the idea that I need a new truck or see how the repair plays out.
That's what C.W. posted in a group, asking for advice. The conversation has already generated 282 comments by the time of this writing. What would you tell him?
I believe in order to replace a brand new vehicle you have to see if it qualifies for the Lemon law. So, I would say check your state's lemon laws. Car manufacturers are generally hesitant to do any sort of buybacks unless lemon law requirements are met which can be very difficult to meet depending on the state you are in.
C.W. says, he checked the Lemon laws of his state and it’s 30 days in the shop for the same issue in the first two years or an unsuccessful attempt to repair the same issue 3 times. "I think it’ll be tough for them to replace it in 30 days, so there may be a chance there."
On the other hand, as one commenter notes it we are not sure why it wouldn't be a warranty issue. "Technically the first oil change isn't due until 10k. So it's not going to be a maintenance issue. Engine or transmission replacement or brake failure typically are covered under Lemon laws. I am on my 4th Tundra but in my opinion you need to pursue the lemon law. You should have received a paper when you bought the truck. The truck won't retain its value when someone reads engine replacement on a carfax," writes a user, named Sam Haley.
Another option would be to sell the truck back to Toyota. These types of engine failures are rare, but they do happen.
A group member who claims to be an engine expert thinks Toyota isn't going to give a new truck in this case. "The idea that the truck will never be the same is an inaccurate one. We do engine jobs all the time and the customers keep the vehicles near forever after that due to the investment. We actually put a used engine in a 4Runner years ago for a customer, then bought the 4Runner after it was totaled, then pulled that engine, supercharged it, and put it in a 4Runner owned by a family member of our owner. That engine is in its 3rd 4Runner in its life, and tows a boat every weekend while being force fed," he wrote.
Speaking of the new 4Runner, you may want to see our ranking of 2024 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro Terra vs Tundra, Tacoma and Sequoia.
Ryan Johnson writes, "I talked to an engineer for Honda today. He’s been an engineer in the automotive industry for 30 years. He said this is literally happening in every single auto manufacturer out there, including Honda."
There are many avenues that can be pursued in this case, but besides looking at the lemon laws and possibly selling the truck back to Toyota, I think I would request Toyota to install a crate engine, with all new components, not try and reuse the heads, turbos, and all of the things they don’t normally replace.
What do you think in this case? What advice would you give to this Tundra owner? Please, click on the red link below to add your comment and join the discussion.
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Toyota dropped the ball by…
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Toyota dropped the ball by offering only a V6. It's a Lexas engine designed for a car.
The 5.7 V8 should have remained an option. Two ideas: install a 5.7 V8 or replace the truck. They will take the entire cab off the truck to replace the engine.
What else could go wrong?
Besides, Toyota could have increased the v8 hp to 420 and 8 speed transmission
You are right!
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In reply to Toyota dropped the ball by… by BigBird 57 (not verified)
You are right!
Verify and Let them put a…
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Verify and Let them put a new crate engine in it .
It will have the same warranty as new. And just enjoy your new truck. I don't think a factory replacement engine will hurt the value of your truck.
After a few years, just trade it in if your still not happy at the same dealership if possible.
Had a new 22 tundra got rid…
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Had a new 22 tundra got rid of it too many recalls
My advice is to pursue a…
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My advice is to pursue a buyback from Toyota. The repair would likely show up on Carfax, impacting the future value of your vehicle. I had a 2022 tundra 1794 edition. After about six months, I became so frustrated with it that I traded it on a 10 year old Land Cruiser. A much better choice for my situation.
Get a new truck. It will…
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Get a new truck. It will never be the same!
I bought a truck that I…
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I bought a truck that I ordered in 1983. A GMC Jimmy 4 wheel drive. It lasted under 200 miles. GMC wanted to repair the engine so I hired a lawyer and 12 hours later I was in the dealership ordering a new truck that was built in Pontiac Michigan. They called me every two weeks with updates. It lasted 26,000 miles before it literally came apart. I have purchased 12 or 15 vehicles since and not one was a GMC and I’ll never own one. Neither will my adult children and maybe my grandchildren. It was a BAD experience from the onset and kissing my butt didn’t help after they tried to rip me off first thing. Two Tundras is all I’ve driven the last 24 years.
Keep the truck but go with…
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Keep the truck but go with the "crate engine".... make sure that the remaining warranty cover the new engine in addition to whatever warranty comes with the crate engine
Toyota’s are not what they…
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Toyota’s are not what they used to be.
Talk to your dealer, ask…
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Talk to your dealer, ask them to simply trade it in for a new one, most dealer will not have an issue doing this
Yes, I would definitely…
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Yes, I would definitely insist on the crate motor. Depending on the catastrophic failure of a part in the engine, microscope pieces may have circulated to oil galleries. This would never be cleaned out enough in a block swap. Dealer gets paid piece work for a warranty repair, the faster they do it the more they profit.
If the truck is under 12000…
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If the truck is under 12000 miles and less then a year and no modafcation , then he’s %100 coved even if It’s his wiper blade. Lemon law has nothing to do with this. New engine or transmission or whatever needs should be 0 out of pocket
I have a 2022 Toyota tundra…
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I have a 2022 Toyota tundra my engine blew up at 37,000km's last July. They found there was a failure in the connecting crank rod bearing. They decided they were going to rebuild the small block & I didn't get it back until the end of December.. Since getting it back I have had it back to the dealership twice because my truck is losing oil(burning it) I am putting 6 liters every 4,000km's. Now they believe it's getting blow by from the top end at the valve seals. I asked them if they were going to replace now instead but no such luck.
I wish him the best of luck…
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I wish him the best of luck and hope that they will at least try to make it right. From what I have heard and read I highly doubt they will come close though. I purchased a brand new 21 tundra trd pro with warranty, I had to pay a deposit on it so that no one else could buy it even though it hadn't even been built yet then wait 3 months until it was delivered. My toyota dealership wouldnt let me make any changes to the build, it was being built with tube steps that i knew i was going to take off immediately they were $500 extra also planned to ditch the stock michelin all season tires for more of a a/t tire with aggressive look. I didnt argue since I didnt have a street legal vehicle at the time, I drove my work vehicle being a hvac service tech always on call this was a bit of a perk but led to my old jeep no longer passing inspection costing me around 5 grand every year in repairs only getting 9mpg and rotting away. My dad had just passed away leaving behind his life savings to me, it was something I was trying to make a smart choice on, had to be a vehicle that held its value, realiable and something that will last so I could hopefully pass down to my only child for her first vehicle in 12 years. I knew we didn't have to have a brand new one or a trd pro higher end model or really even need it to be a full size truck. After researching i knew it had to be a toyota and was interested in the 4runner trd pro or liked the tacoma trd pro and the tundra trd pro all in lunar rock color. Used suvs and pick ups were going for the same price as new ones if not even more at the time and they had 20,000 miles on them and were incredibly hard to find. After searching all the dealerships in my area and countless hours spent online looking for something that fit my build I decided to inquired about a 4runner trd pro and a tacoma trd pro at my local toyota dealership. I was told 4runners were sold out and not being made anymore and the tacoma i would have to wait around 7 months but still could not choose the build options and had to pay deposit on it to have it shipped to my dealership so that i can physically see it in person. So i asked about the tundra trd pro since i needed a vehicle I explained I will be paying in full my dad just passed this is something he couldn't do and I wont be doing again in my lifetime so I'm invested. I was talked into purchasing 10yr/100,000 mile warranty i thought anything to protect it. I paid for the truck in full and never even seen the inside of it they didn't even allow me to test drive it or anything didn't explain how to remote start it or any of its features just sign and pay and here's the keys. I am a car lover and handy person that has never been able to afford to pay someone to do things that I am capable of doing and I read tons of horror stories about the maintenance that gets done at the dealership and how they scratched the truck or the rims or they didnt change the oil filter correctly and it getting sucked in because its missing the inner tube. I decided i was not going to be bringing my truck in for the 2 free years of maintenance cus i wanted to handle it myself so that i can protect my investment and make sure it's done right. In making that decision everything i have read since and heard from people tells me that the 10yr/100kmile warranty that i paid for is no longer going to ever be honored. No one tells you that when you are buying it, they dotell you that you need to make sure the maintenance schedule is followed and if it is not then they will not warranty it if anything happens. So i did the oil changes and oil filter on time each time but that does not matter since toyota did not do it. I found a tiny little maintenance schedule booklet with all the truck paperwork that tells you exactly what should be done when and their is a spot in it for toyota to put a stamp at each maintenance interval that they do. Without the stamp from them the warranty will not be honored and be useless. If i knew that when i bought the truck i would have saved 3 grand by not buying the dumb warranty, i paid for my truck so that idon't have to worry about it and i do not trust them to do the maintenence correctly or without putting a scratch on my wheels or ruining my lug nuts with their impacts. Hopefully I won't need my warranty but if I ever do I know I won't be able to even use it now. I just want to try to keep up on the truck so I can help my daughter start out ahead of where I was when I was younger. My dad bought me my 1st car he paid $250 it had a transmission problem made it shake and shudder loudly it was embarrassing pulling into school but as embarrassing as it was i loved it cus my dad was able to get me my own car. Looking back that car was probably the best car i ever had it got me through a year and then I drove it to the scrap yard and they gave me $250 exactly what we paid when we bought it. Then at 18 I bought myself a newer cooler looking car with my own money. The car had blown its motor at 100,000 miles and the owner decided to buy a new crate motor and have a mechanic install it he drove it until 150,000 the heater core needed to be replaced and he decided to sell it that's when I bought it the motor only had 50,000 miles on it i paid 5grand that i had saved from working and knew i had to have it fixed before i could drive it $1600 later it was ready. It made it 5 months i think maybe 5,000 miles and the crate motor that had been put in blew up with no warning sign at all. Ihad somewhere around $7200 into this car that lasted 5 months so i sold it for i believe 2 grand and have been taking out loans to buy my next vehicle since then, by the time the loan is paid the car is junk and cost too much to keep. The car manufacturers are now trying to create these throw away cars just like how a appliance used to last you 30 yrs now they last what anywhere from 6 months to 12yrs. I was lucky to buy my tundra when I did because the new ones might help bring your gas mileage from the 10mpg average with v8 to maybe 16mpg with a v6 twin turbo, so to get this tiny bit of savings on gas your paying somewhere around $15000 more initially and having to worry every day that it could be the day you're motor blows up and because your 10 miles late on oil chance they won't fix it or they do fix it cus you did meet all these stupid stipulations thatare in the warranty that no one actually tells you and you never read because you bought a new vehicle you want to drive it not sort through all these papers and booklets to read that you over paid trying to buy some reassurance that you will have it under warranty but of course all you read is how no matter how hard you tried you voided the warranty because guess what they can't afford to cover it since they now can't even sell vehicles to loyal vans because of all the problems and cheap chinsey plastic they are made of. I remember being a teen and an expensive truck cost $30000 now that would buy you a 10 year old truck with 80k in good shape the new one is what your house chose cost. These things are being made cheaper and cheaper my truck will scratch from anything i mean down to metal its like it has hardly any paint on it, my windshield is chipped all over and i don't even drive on back roads i do city driving i never had a vehicle that scratched that way or one that had any problems with the windshield chipping. I was thinking about paying out of pocket to get new windshield but it's $1800 for something that will chip again. The damn jbl sound package sounds awful the subwoofer and box are plastic the upgraded sound package in my 1999 chrysler 300m would put this to shame and according to everything i read it cost somewhere around $2 grand and replacing of almost every component to get it to sound like the mortgage payment you just bought. now you have to have no vehicle for who knows how long maybe 5 months while they disassemble and destroy yours trying to put another one of these unproven motors in not too mention your still making a monthly payment of like 2 grand for a vehicle you can't even drive all that time. Good luck toyota if only you had money from the sales of a good reliable vehicle then maybe you could afford to help take care of your customers, wait o that's right it's just about making money, you had it figured out before create a vehicle people want that is affordable, reliable, resilient and you have a loyal customer that will tell everyone they know and continue to if you show loyalty back to them if they buy a cheap version you made cus you needed more money and had to meet standards o wait it wasn't cheap though you just made it like a toy. I understand why and honestly idk if their is a current car manufacturer that I would buy if I needed a car I think I would stay away from any new cars because the stuff being made is like something my kid should be driving in the backyard compared to what it used to be
Buy a new Tacoma, at least…
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Buy a new Tacoma, at least they did the front end right on it and didnt make it look like the ugly Tundra front end, hard to get past that design gaff!!
My 2022 Tundra Capstone blew…
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My 2022 Tundra Capstone blew at 25600 after 19 mos. of ownership. 60 days in the shop. I will say it drives better now than before. Only excuse I got was “multiple, critical engine part failures. LemonLaw only applies in my state if under 24 mos and 24000 miles. STRIKE ONE. I asked anyway and they denied me a replacement. That case is over and since they only do one at a time, I am now asking for my two payments made without a truck back. Since I went through Toyota Financ I have to go through them instead of the Toyota Brand Engagement Team on this next issue. I am calling Finance tomorrow as I want
The residual value of my lease reduced. It was based on a level of reliability/resale that these vehicles aren’t showing due to manufacturing defects. My truck has decreased in value close to $30k in my 21 months of ownership. We’ll see but I think it will be STRIKE TWO and STRIKE THREE with Toyota.
Push for a new engine with…
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Push for a new engine with all new components. Something in the original components could've caused the original engine to go bad.
I brought a 2023 platinum…
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I brought a 2023 platinum and was sold on the fact that I would be getting 19 city and 22 highway. I am only getting 15 at best on highway. I do a lot of highway driving, it’s not even a year old and I have 27k miles. The paint on the front grill is also chipping and Toyota only replaced one side of the front grill panel, they said that it is highway driving that caused the chips. I asked them why did the paint not chip off then? They haven’t answered yet. The service person called and said that the moment they put my truck on the lift the check engine light came on and suggested that someone may have hit the vehicle… I was appalled. It’s always parked in my driveway and anywhere I go I keep it safe. They had to swap out the front air intake panel as it would not close when the vehicle didn’t call for air. I just think they are going to mess things up and I can’t wait to lawyer up
I would want a new truck I…
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I would want a new truck I feel like it want be the same as if it came from the factory I also feel like they would take short cuts mean they want put everything back in the truck brand new like you bought it
After reading the comments…
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After reading the comments about the 4 and 6 cylinder engines, I think I'll keep my '88 F-250 7.3 IDI Diesel with 235,000 miles.
Toyota is just replacing…
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Toyota is just replacing short blocks not entire engines. So your new truck has an engine assembled by your local dealer. That will lead to one off Frankenstein installs depending on if your dealer gives a crap or not
As someone who has…
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As someone who has successfully settled a lemon law case I can say it may not be the best option as they will generally low ball you and probably only offer half the value of the vehicle. In my case they paid me $12k but let me keep the car which I then sold afterwards.
Don't give them a chance.I…
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Don't give them a chance.I have sued kia for a defective engine and issues since we bought the vehicle; they will drag the issue until you pass the warranty, and won't get nothing.
At only 7k miles it's still…
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At only 7k miles it's still considered new to any respectable manufacturer. Unless he drove it through deep water this is absolutely covered under warranty.
I have a 06 tundra with 660…
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I have a 06 tundra with 660,000 Miles on it never skipped a beat best truck I've ever owned
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In reply to I have a 06 tundra with 660… by Peter McAllister (not verified)
As I've said a million times, they are ether great, or garbage. It's luck of the draw. Also, an 06 is a way better truck than anything they've built in the last decade.
My son bought a brand new…
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My son bought a brand new 2014 Tundra and his engine blew up at almost 400 kilometers. He brought it in three times because it was making clicking, slapping, and knocking noises. The Toyota dealer here in the Sault said the slapping noise would stop once the engine warmed up. The dealer said, "The slapping noise was due to Toyota using "racing pistons" in their V8 engines... He wanted a new truck and didn't get one. The dealer tore down the engine, and supposedly had to wait for Toyota in Japan to approve only an engine replacement, and the "special order V8 supposedly came straight from Japan" and was the reason it took 3 months for the engine to arrive in 🇨🇦 🍁 Canada.
I would try having the Truck…
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I would try having the Truck Replaced. If not then a NEW Engine. Not a repaired Engine
If they won't buy back then…
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If they won't buy back then definitely a new crate engine! Depending on type of failure the heads could be comprised.
I would definitely talk to…
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I would definitely talk to general manager of dealership and ask him to make things right and put himself in your position. We aren't talking about a replaced windshield, tires but rather the main component of a vehicle being the engine. I liken it to a person having a triple bypass. No doubt it's a very serious surgery and one that most people aren't the same after because their will always be restrictions and sometimes side affects you can't avoid because of the seriousness dealing with a main of component of the body which is the heart. In a similar sense it's the same with an engine of a vehicle and mind you, a brand new engine at that. I've owned 3 Toyota Camrys starting in 2009. My very first Camry, when I would drive on freeway, I would hear wind noise coming into cab through front windshield. I took it back with 10 thousand miles and they said they were going to have to replace windshield due because it wasn't installed right at factory. I just couldn't believe that being a brand new car, they were having to replace front windshield. I went to talk to General manager and told him I didn't want my car because if that's what they were going to have to replace now, what's not to say that in another 3 months or more something else goes wrong. He agreed and bought back my vehicle for what I payed and got me in a brand new one. If they did that for a windshield, I know they would definitely do it for an engine major problem!
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