I am so glad I have kept an eye on several Toyota Tundra groups and pages on social media to keep up with the problems of the new Tundras. It looks like the older Tundra trucks are more reliable than the newer ones and people complain about the emission standards and the green agenda, saying they hurt Toyota's reliability. I don't know if the emissions standards are hurting any car company's reliability, but I have read about it in other car-brand related forums as well.
Anyway! It was only two days ago that I wrote about a frustrated new Toyota Tundra owner who said his 2024 Tundra has a blown engine at 7,000 miles and asked if he should fight for a replacement of the truck vs the replacement of the engine. Many of you commented under that article and gave him good suggestions. But now I am seeing another very hot discussion in the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners' group on Facebook in which a man, named David Wallace, posted the picture of his 2022 Tundra going to the dealership for the 3rd time for a very frustrating reason.
Wallace says, "My 2022 is going back to the dealership. 3rd motor going in. First engine replacement happened at 30k miles. This one is at 49k miles. Engine locked up while cruising down the highway at 60mph. This is the third and last time this truck will leave me stranded on the side of the road."
At the time of this writing, David's post had generated 285 comments.
"I don’t get it, did they just partially replace the engine? Seems like there’s something about your truck that is chewing up engines," writes Shawn Ace.
Wallace replied and said, "Toyota only offers short blocks for engine replacements. So cross contamination off an older part is a real possibility."
Asked if there are any technical reasons these failures happen, one of group members said that they are quite frequently discussed in the group and the main bearing seems to be the most common failure in some of the new Toyota Tundra trucks. The cause isn’t really known, but is speculated based on a few factors. Improper cleaning of block, improper torquing of the engine girdle/main caps (it’s one piece) and/or a single person not doing their job at TMMAL... The first few failures are sometimes caused by a bad batch of bearings per someone who use to work for the bearing manufacturer.
As I mentioned the problem with the other new Toyota Tundra in my previous story (linked above), I am coming to conclusion that when these engines fail they should be replaced with a completely assembled long block. There is no telling what metal is where when you put old engine parts on a new short block after a failure.Just thinking of the labor costs of taking an engine apart and putting old heads on a short block is just crazy to me as far as common sense and labor costs.
It seems to be that the hybrid Toyota Tundra trucks don't have issues vs the non-hybrid ones. Marshal Hayes has an interesting comment in the discussion, which I find very revealing. He writes, "I just bought a 23. The Toyota dealer I went to told me that they had had zero issues with the hybrid model. But they are inundated with issues in the non-hybrid. Must be some failure point there that the hybrid doesn’t experience."
In this case, my advice would be this: you need to test drive both the Hybrid and the gas-only version of the Tundra to help you decide which model best fits you and your driving needs.
My view on the situation.
David, that's incredibly frustrating to hear about your Tundra's engine problems. Two engine replacements in under 50k miles are definitely not what you expect from a new Toyota. Glad you're safe after the engine locked up, that could have been dangerous on the highway.
Have you reached out to Toyota directly and explained the situation? They should definitely be stepping up to resolve this issue for you definitively. Maybe some other Tundra owners in the group have had similar experiences and can offer advice on how to deal with Toyota. Please click on the red link below and write your comment if you have had any experience with a similar situation. What would you suggest David to do?
Images by David Wallace, from the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners group on Facebook, credited and linked above in the article.
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I would say go upgrade to…
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I would say go upgrade to the last Gen with the 5.7.
Or better yet, a Ford.
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In reply to I would say go upgrade to… by RK Mullens (not verified)
Or better yet, a Ford.
Ah yes ford, the brand with…
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In reply to Or better yet, a Ford. by John (not verified)
Ah yes ford, the brand with the record for the most truck recalls.
I would say I am very…
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I would say I am very pleased with my older Toyota Tundra truck. I am kicking it with 315k on my 2010 TRD pro 4x4 Tundra.
All of this leaves me very…
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In reply to I would say I am very… by Ken Smith (not verified)
All of this leaves me very concerned. I just traded in my 2010 tundra TRD 4x4 for a 2024 limited crewmax. The 2010 had only 128k miles and was in perfect condition but was rusting in the bed very badly. It seems it's either rust with reliable power train or no rust with unreliable power train. You expect more from Toyota.
You probably should’ve held…
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In reply to All of this leaves me very… by Richard Price (not verified)
You probably should’ve held on to the older model and just had the bed repaired and re-painted. Newer cars are just engineered to break these days; planned obsolescence.
TRD pro was released in 2015…
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In reply to I would say I am very… by Ken Smith (not verified)
TRD pro was released in 2015 if I'm remembering correctly. Prior to that it was the TRD ROCK WARRIOR, which was one of the best Tundras ever made imo. Just a cool, ultra reliable 4×4 without all the fancy stuff, or the 80k price tag.
Nothing different about a…
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In reply to TRD pro was released in 2015… by Jb (not verified)
Nothing different about a TRD Pro or Rock Warrior far as drivetrain with a 5.7 years and tranny. Only diffs are suspension, wheels, skid plates, steps maybe, couple other badges or doo dads. Debatable on even Pro suspension if coil overs being worthy versus what can get King,Fox, Bilstein, even Icon (not a fan with their setup)....since the Procoilovers are not rebuildable.
I’d suggest ripping out the…
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I’d suggest ripping out the new POS motor and going back to the best 5.7 so far.
Yes there are issues and it…
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Yes there are issues and it’s being addressed by Toyota. Let’s put things in perspective. This is not even 1% of the Toyota Tundra problems. So everyone needs to calm down.
Problem is oil changing…
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In reply to Yes there are issues and it… by Shon Taie (not verified)
Problem is oil changing every 10-15 k miles.That long period is killing engines.
Change oil every 5 k miles max and you car will be ok.
I agree. I change at 8,000KM…
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In reply to Problem is oil changing… by Andyman1150 (not verified)
I agree. I change at 8,000KM which is the 1/2 way point of the Toyota covered warranty free oil change. OIL is cheap and much easier to change. I have 30,000km (18,000 miles) so far without issue and 80% of that is towing a 7,000+lb travel trailer. I must say this does make me very nervous (as opposed to my old 5.7 2010 which was bullet proof) and makes me think that maybe I should have picked up a used 2021 with the 5.7 instead of the new 2023.
I'd suggest he fight for a…
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I'd suggest he fight for a lemon law. 3rd time for major engine failure... Yeah. My guy has a very strong case for a buyback. At this point the dealership wouldn’t have a leg to stand on trying to stop it.
At this point makes me…
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At this point makes me wonder how they’re using the vehicle. If they’re letting it warm up or if they’re maintaining oil changes and such. Once is an anomaly, twice could be a coincidence but usually 3 times is a pattern.
Modern vehicles have no need…
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In reply to At this point makes me… by Walter Esese (not verified)
Modern vehicles have no need to "warm-up" and on the flip side, if he let it idling excessively, engine should not be failing at this mileage. Oil changes - if Toyota is replacing under warranty, I would assume they would check fluids.
"There is no telling what metal is where when you put old engine parts on a new short block after a failure."
This seems plausible.
A real mechanic would make…
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In reply to Modern vehicles have no need… by Mark (not verified)
A real mechanic would make sure that all the parts are thoroughly clean so I don't want to hear this contaminated BS I have rebuilt lots of motors in My life mine don't fail
These are all COVID cars and…
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These are all COVID cars and trucks. The world was shut down and no one could get parts. Car companies started to get their parts from anyone who could provide them with little time for QA. It was a colossal global supply chain shit-show. 2021 and 2022 cars will always have issues. And the Tundra was a new model too, so double whammy.
My 2009 tundra has 350000…
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In reply to These are all COVID cars and… by Amin Oteifa (not verified)
My 2009 tundra has 350000 miles . 0 issues other than general.maintenence. get an older tundra they are tanks!
I agree my 2001.toyotatundra…
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In reply to My 2009 tundra has 350000… by J (not verified)
I agree my 2001.toyotatundra driver seat cushion is starting to flatten out.
I own a 2008 TRD 4x4. Best…
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In reply to These are all COVID cars and… by Amin Oteifa (not verified)
I own a 2008 TRD 4x4. Best truck ever! 200k + miles and its never failed me. I put many miles a year on it hunting, so even one failure would not go well out in the mtns. We have broken 3 axles, but those were self inflicted while in the mtns hunting, but other than that this truck is bullet proof and gets 14.3 mph city w 5.7 engine.
I'm read a couple older trucks like mine going 1 million miles and Toyota gave owner a new one in exchange for his ild one, so engineers could take it apart.
You’re not the only one who…
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You’re not the only one who has this problem. I have a 2023 Tundra TRD Pro and I only have 13700 miles left me stock on the road because it was leaking oil. When I towed my truck dealer told me that the transmission fluid is leaking and needed to replace the transmission. I think this is causing when they did the the recall and they didn’t want to tell you the truth. The Toyota advisor told me they want to keep the truck until they figure out if the transmission or something else. This is not good news for me.
Well that's a total bummer…
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Well that's a total bummer. I have a 2008 Tundra with 240,000. Haven't had any problems, I change oil every 5000 miles. It's been a great truck and always recommended Toyota. I was thinking about getting a new truck but based on this info, might have to rethink about Toyota.
David, so sorry to hear…
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David, so sorry to hear about your problems with your new truck! Look under Lemon Law and see if you can return the vehicle for a refund. If I am not mistaking Lemon Law says if you take your vehicle to the dealer for repairs of same issue 3 times and the issue keeps occurring, the manufacturer is obligated to buy back your vehicle. You might want to talk to an attorney as well. I wish you all the best!
I'd say get a new Nissan…
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I'd say get a new Nissan Titan V8 or Frontier V6 isntead of these V6 Turbo charged Toyota's until they go back to natural aspirated engines.
My 22 tundra has been at the…
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My 22 tundra has been at the dealership for 2 weeks for the same reason. At 29k the engine stopped running and I got stranded in the middle of traffic in downtown. The dealership is replacing the short block as im writingthis comment. It's unfortunate and disappointing.
My 07 has 205k miles and…
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My 07 has 205k miles and runs great. I open the hood once a year to change fluids.
New 2024 Tundra once step…
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New 2024 Tundra once step out the dealer got home, park close to an hour as soon get going a very bad noise from the breaks, toked back to the dealership, they said have to wait for a recall. I called Toyota headquarters & one option is get another new
B ring these are new and…
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B ring these are new and they are Toyota Tundras (historically, the most reliable brand as well as truck) would love to know the service history and driving style of the few repeating issues.
Go for the lemon law after…
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Go for the lemon law after the third time make them give you a new truck I had to do that with a new 2003 Ford diesel it was in VA but I kept on them they took the truck and gave me what I paid for it plus the fifth wheel and the mud flaps and the taxes and tags I had 28000 on it you got to keep on them
It is going on its 3rd…
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It is going on its 3rd engine, not motor
Motor would be for an EV, not an ICE, and motors rarely fail, while engines will eventually die to wear.
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