A New Report Saying The Next-Gen Subaru STI Comes With 420HP Is Laughable

320hp wouldn't be so bad if it were actually read at the wheels.

They could do it if they use the porsch v6 boxer motor. I dont see it in the 4 cylinder. We will see.

For one, the Forbes article is already saying it's an article by saying "source close to Subaru". Anyone with common sense that read it would already know it's a rumor. For two, the Forbes article doesn't say anything about Subaru caring about topping Mercedes' performance. They use the AMG as a valid comparison, that is it. Dial down the sensationalism, lol.

I could believe the Torque numbers but not the HP numbers. It's been easy to get those torque numbers to the wheels relatively easily with the EJ25. I would assume the same with the FA25. And Subaru turbo charged boxer motor normally makes more torque than HP

You retards have been spouting that the new STI will have 400 hp for YEARS, and now you think it's laughable?? Only thing laughable is this site's credibility.

Author desperately needs a Journalism 101 class.

The part I love the most about this is the irony of the guy who makes up half his content, calling out someone else for *potentially* making up stuff.

I wonder how many people were disappointed when the FozXT/Foz Wilderness turbo never happened after you told them it would.

So Forbes has a source for its reporting but you're able to refute it based on your gut feeling? Lmao.

You might be right but you're just guessing.

I'm not sure why would anyone think 400hp is overstated. Mercedes makes more power with smaller engine. Slightly bigger turbo with VGT will easily kick 400+ HP even at the wheels if asked. Even if STI isn't a competitor to AMG, there is no reason to believe it won't come juiced up. STI has been using the same engine architecture for over a decade. Now that wrx closed the power gap, it's logical that STI leaves the boys club and advances into man's one...

It’s very clear they aren’t shooting for Mercedes. If they were it would have a proper twin clutch gearbox, instead of the antiquated manual. Since Subaru has no twin clutch, or even a good geared automatic, they aren’t playing with Mercedes or the A45.

i think the main thing for me would be the twin scroll turbo system that i like so much in my 2015 wrx. it literally leaps off the line. i have never been beaten off the line like that by any ford gt. they are usually shocked. sti model presently has too much turbo lag. will the new sti leap off the line or continue with turbo lag. i dont care nearly as much about horsepower as i do about being like the wrx.

Subaru could make this with 450Hp if they wanted to but it all comes down to COST and the warranty. Most drivers cannot handle 350Hp let alone 450Hp.

If this is true, Subaru has clearly forgotten what made the STI great.

I know that HP is not what makes a car great but it certainly matters and attracts buyers so...

Back in 2004 the STI had ~300 HP. Guess what? The mustang GT at the time had around 300 as well, and mustangs back then couldn't take a corner. The charger didn't exist, and the Camaro was still an f-body that couldn't handle for shit and had low 300's HP-wise. The E46 M3 had 330-something, pretty sure the RS4 wasn't sold in the states and the S4 had 250 HP, not sure if the C class had anything above the C32 AMG which was in the low/mid 200's.

No, these cars are not in the same class but somebody would be a fool to think that the STI's popularity and greatness wasn't large in part contributed to by comparing it to these cars. For 30k you could get something with similar power to a something german and fast, or a V8 muscle car, but something that could also stop and handle, and worked in ice and light snow. It cost much less than the german sports sedans of the time.

Now the STI has ~300HP, 0-60 in the low 5's, 1/4 mi. is low 13's... I'm sorry, I want an STI that has been able to catch up to the muscle cars and german sports sedans, otherwise it's absurd paying well over 40k for a 300hp Subaru. I know it's "not about power" but by not keeping up, it's losing its original appeal. This thing needs to run 0-60 in the very low 4's and a 1/4 mi. in the low 12's.

The only plus I can think of is if the powertrain is built to withstand tuning the car to at least that level performance with a couple bolt-ons, no crazy expensive upgraded DI injectors and high pressure fuel pump, and a re-flash while still remaining very reliable and a mod-friendly dealer network. This won't happen.