Tesla Cybertruck owners who have insured their trucks using Progressive Insurance are reporting that they are getting penalized for using Tesla’s full self-driving software.
These Progressive customers have signed up for the Snapshot program, where they have given the insurance company permission to monitor their driving habits and adjust their premiums based on the incoming data.
The Cybertruck owners signed up for Snapshot, hoping to get their premiums lowered after proving their good driving abilities; however, they report that driving using FSD has really hurt their score.
The first person to bring this issue to our attention is Dave: a Cybertruck owner from Nebraska.
Dave shared his unique struggle on the Cybertruck Owners Club forum under the title, “Progressive/Snapshot thinks FSD is using hard braking.”
Explaining the issue further in detail, Dave continues to write…
“I use FSD probably 80% of the time.
But against my better judgment, I signed up for Snapshot with Progressive. After two months, it thinks I'm using hard braking and is giving me a low score. Sure enough, my insurance from Progressive just jumped over $400 for six months. It went from $850 to $1290. I'm not saying it's all because of Snapshot, but I'm sure it's playing a part in it. I doubt if I called them, they would outright tell me.
Does anyone have a similar experience?”
An insurance premium adjustment from $850 to $1290 is a 51% bump in just a couple of months. That is definitely a major increase.
Something interesting here: Tesla Insurance will decrease customers’ premiums if they frequently use FSD; however, Progressive’s Snapshot software has identified using FSD as more dangerous than driving manually.
Another Cybertruck owner from Houston, Texas, who goes by the username Pops, adds to Dave's experience by sharing his own story of using Progressive/Snapshot.
Pops shares his Cybertruck with his wife and says he barely engages FSD, only turning it on 30% of his drive; however, his wife is a much bigger FSD fan and engages the software on almost 90% of her drive.
Pops says that, as a light FSD user, he has a 5 out of 5 score from Progressive, whereas his wife, a heavy FSD user, only has a 1 out of 5 score.
Pops adds that although there are other factors affecting his wife’s score, she is also getting dinged for the same hard braking and fast acceleration when using FSD.
Pops writes,
“I also have Progressive Snapshot. My score is 5/5, and I use FSD about 30% of the time. My wife's score is 1/5 (we are screwed at renewal). She uses FSD about 90% of the time. The problem is she gets dinged for phone use on almost all of her drives. There is also fast acceleration and hard braking for her while using FSD.”
Pops further goes on to explain that the biggest reason for his wife’s 1/5 score is phone use; she doesn’t mark herself as a passenger when in the Cybertruck but not driving the vehicle.
However, Pops has also observed that she gets more penalized for hard braking and fast acceleration when FSD makes the driving decisions.
Overall, it’s interesting to see that people who drive manually get better scores than those using Tesla’s full self-driving software. I wonder what this means for Tesla’s autonomous vehicle future.
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Tinsae Aregay has been following Tesla and the evolution of the EV space daily for several years. He covers everything about Tesla, from the cars to Elon Musk, the energy business, and autonomy. Follow Tinsae on Twitter at @TinsaeAregay for daily Tesla news.
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I don't have Snapshot, but…
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I don't have Snapshot, but my Progressive policy went up around 30% this year, for no reason that I can determine.
FSD software had harder…
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In reply to I don't have Snapshot, but… by Larry (not verified)
FSD software had harder breaking and faster acceleration when we bought our model Y in October. The software was updated in the last month or so and it's much more like a human driver. That being said, I think this shows the problem with letting an app adjust your rate based on algorithms. I am a Navy pilot and airline pilot and I feel like I'm a better driver than most. I've never had an accident in 30 years of driving. I believe FSD is probably far safer than a human driver. It sees more, can react more quickly, and allows you to observe more around you and increase your situational awareness. Even if it accelerates hard and brakes hard, that means nothing about how safely you drive. The Tesla uses regenerative braking, which is probably more efficient when it waits to brake a little longer than normal, for what it's worth.
Just a reminder: Snapshot…
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Just a reminder: Snapshot interfaces with the OBD2 port for power, and uses accelerometers and such to record conditions. It's basically a data recorder locked in the trunk. The OBD2 protocol does not have any provisions for reporting FSD is in use. This tells us a couple things.
1) FSD accelerates and brakes harder than a human driver is expected to, possibly a result of EV torque.
2) Snapshot remains something you should not use, because it provides no context for what it is recording. Get cut off and have to brake hard? You get dinged. Need to floor it to avoid a crunch? You get dinged. Context matters.
I used FSD extensively…
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I used FSD extensively during the free trial. I keep my car mostly in ‘Chill’ mode and feel that FSD doesn’t take any notice of that setting. I would like it to give me a smooth ride over speedy acceleration and braking. I don't like to have my coffee spilled! Perhaps Tesla should introduce ‘Limo’ mode for FSD to maximize comfort.