GM's CEO Dan Akerson made a pair of appearances in San Francisco last week in which he made a strong case for the Chevy Volt, improved fuel efficiency, as well as the government playing a role in shaping industry. His comments come amid a swirling politicized controversy surrounding General Motors, the Chevy Volt, global warming, automakers efforts to reduce environmental impact, and the automobile industry bailout. Akerson made it clear that the "new GM" (as he called it) was intent on being part of the solution, rather than being obstreperous, and to that end that GM is exploring every alternative to gasoline, every fuel efficiency technology, and will continue developing vehicles like the Volt.
Clearly Akerson's answer to the question "Should GM kill the Chevy Volt, stand pat, or create the Volt2?" is not only to build the Volt 2.0, but he described it during an interview with the Climate One program of The Commonwealth Club.
GM's Dave Barthmuss reported, on thefutureiselectric.com, about a lunch-time meeting between Akerson and a group of 30 Chevy Volt enthusiasts to talk about GM's commitment to a sustainable future. Akerson, a Volt owner himself, talked of having burnt only 1/10th of a gallon of gasoline since February, and that among the Volt owners in the meeting one had driven nearly 13,000 miles on the initial tank of gasoline sold with his Volt.
The interview with Climate One host Greg Dalton was an hour of wide ranging and frank discussion about GM, the auto industry bailout, fuel efficiency, the Volt, and much more.
Akerson described the New GM as a company that can no longer be internally focused, that GM must focus on the evolution of the automobile industry, to look forward to see where the market conditions are going, to position GM correctly in the future, especially in regards to meet expected future environmental, fuel efficiency and fuel flexibility standards. As he put it GM "can't afford to focus on the near term" but must ask "What will market conditions be like in 2030?" In saying this it's as if Akerson's take on GM's bankruptcy is that GM wasn't focused on the actual direction the market was taking, but on attempting to manipulate the market forces in a way that ultimately led to GM's bankruptcy.
Speaking on the auto industry bailout, Akerson comes across as a big champion of that process. His former position was "Head of Global Buyout" at the Carlyle Group, making him well suited to critique the U.S. Government's role in the auto industry bailout. He noted there are "multiple options or avenues to a successful restructuring" of any troubled corporation, and that, in his opinion, as someone who had a front row seat, was that "it was coming off the wheels," meaning that GM was about to disappear completely. The cost if GM were to have failed would have been 1 million jobs, $150 billion in lost taxes, and deep damage to America's industrial infrastructure. The old adage "What's good for GM is good for America" comes to mind, but clearly Akerson's opinion is that, in the context of the deep recession of 2008-9, that another 1 million lost jobs would have turned the recession into a full scale depression.
Akerson noted that two Presidents (Bush and Obama) "put money into this company" (GM) and that neither "were running for office at the time." This fact flies in the face of the political spin machine that's trying to pin the bailout solely on Obama's shoulders, when in truth it was a bipartisan effort. That the leadership in that time "made the pragmatic decision to save this company" rather than take the cost just outlined. For that matter, is the bailout a failure as the spin machine might have us believe, or is it a success? By Akerson's reckoning, it is not only a success, but Americans "ought to be very proud our government stood up regardless of party affiliation" to do the bailout.
What about the "Government Motors" aspect to the company, the fact that the Federal Government directly owns a large chunk of GM. First, Akerson noted that GM has already paid back the government loans, as well as paid back the Preferred stock owned by the government. GM's IPO was the largest IPO in the history of modern finance, and a large chunk of those shares went to the Federal Government, leaving the U.S. owning 27% of GM "on a fully diluted basis". Akerson describes the Government as if it were any other share-holder, and the Government could sell those shares any time it likes, but that it has not done so. However, if the Government were to sell its holding that would depress GM's stock price. Instead of selling these shares all in one chunk, Akerson suggested the Government begin a timed sale of these shares over a 10 year period.
Akerson asked these questions: "Is the federal government a private equity firm? Or was it acting on behalf of we the people? Was our economy, was our citizenship, properly served?" He then went on to say "governments help their companies to, without too much of a heavy hand, shape and mold the direction of technology and how the economy evolves," and that "it's something that is pragmatic" and that it's "done for companies around the globe all the time." A moment of pondering this and we recall that governments make regulations, governments set policies, that governments often form "public private partnerships" to achieve certain goals, that governments have made grants or loans to companies a zillion times over the years, and that this has gone on for decades. For example the whole of the computer & technology industry (and the Internet) was goosed into being through a wide range of government support over the decades, often for technology developed originally for military use and then repurposed for consumer electronics gizmos. The Internet began its life as a Department of Defense project to connect military command and research institutions, and that if the Government had not funded the Internet's initial development it simply would not have existed in the form it takes today, if at all.
All through the interview Akerson glowingly described GM's efforts to decrease the environmental impact of its operations, and the vehicles the company sells. For example most of GM's plants have drastically reduced energy consumption, several are now powered by methane coming from landfill gas, and GM has almost completely eliminated the waste sent to landfills. What's even more interesting is the efforts GM is making to build cleaner vehicles.
Why? The purpose is two-fold, first to decrease the environmental impact of the vehicle fleet, and second to transition away from fossil fuels. Again, the New GM, in Akerson's mind, acts proactively to be part of the solution rather than to be an obstreperous obstruction. GM was a willing participant in the CAFE standards currently being proposed. He noted that due to the EPA, "the air and water is cleaner today than it was in the 50's and 60's" and it's Akerson's belief that "it ought to be even cleaner tomorrow than it is today."
Interestingly GM has developed a new engine, announced last week, that can run on either gasoline or Compressed Natural Gas (CNG). It took some work on lifters and carburetors and whatnot, the cost is a bit more than the pure gasoline counterpart, but not prohibitively so, and such an engine clearly positions GM to sell CNG vehicles in the not-to-distant future.
One of GM's operations is GM Ventures, a fund that invests in promising companies developing technology that could be useful to GM. Akerson used one of those investments, Envia Systems, to describe what could be thought of as the Volt 2.0. That company has developed battery technology claimed to drastically reduce the cost of lithium ion batteries, and to drastically increase the energy density. Currently the Chevy Volt has a 400 pound battery pack, 16 kilowatt-hours, that can drive the Volt for 35-40 miles on electricity alone. Akerson variously described an Envia-powered Volt has having a 140 or 240 mile range and that "battery technology will improve over the next 5, 10, or 15 years".
However, as Climate One host Greg Dalton noted, many are calling the Volt a failure, the most recent example is the five week Chevy Volt production halt. Akerson noted that "you never have perfect knowledge of what the market is going to do" and that any automaker is going to "match production with inventory." Even the Chevy Cruze, one of the top selling cars in America, had a two week production halt last fall. A production halt that nobody noticed, whereas because of the intense politicization of the Chevy Volt everybody knows about its production halt.
Why is the Chevy Volt good for America? Akerson answered “the Volt represents American innovation, American ingenuity…the best of this country and the best from this company.”
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"if 50% of the batteries are
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In reply to Wrong, by my logic they set by Rob (not verified)
"if 50% of the batteries are going to fail at 10 years, it's hardly conceivable to call that their "expected lifespan.""
I don't want to sound condescending but are you aware of a concept called Binomial distribution? If you have a naturally occurring event like device failure they obviously don't all happen at the exact same age. A small number will fail significantly prematurely, more will fail as you get closer to the average lifespan, then you reach a peak then a few will last a bit longer than average and a very small number will last an unusually long time. How do you express that simply, well most people will just use the average, therefore if the average is 10 years some will fail sooner and some later. You could use confidence intervals, like the battery has a 90% chance of lasting at least 8 years but thats lacking in punchiness for marketing and people who havent done stats may not fully understand what it means.
So with normally distributed data the point at which 50% of events occur before and 50% occur after is exactly what I'd call the average expected lifespan. I would then set the warranty ~1 standard deviation lower because that would then cover the 15-20% of batteries that fail the most prematurely.
I am familiar with that. But
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In reply to "if 50% of the batteries are by Rob (not verified)
I am familiar with that. But what you're saying (and implying) is not what that is. You're implying that batteries are good for ten years, so we should all be jumping for joy because EVs now have a 10 year life for their most expensive component. The reality is, MOST PEOPLE will not see that 10 year life out of that battery, which is why the battery makers are not warrantying them for that span.
If you can only expect half of something to meet a specific target, that cannot be its marketed lifespan, otherwise that would be the target consumers would expect. Hence you use a bell curve to decide the best warranty period.
Maybe I'm not scientific enough for you, but in automotive, everything is about the consumer, not the car and technology. You use the car's design and technology to market to consumers, but you don't expect them to understand every nuance. If you tell a consumer that the "expected lifespan" is 10 years, then they will expect to get 10 years out of it.
Except that's not your logic.
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In reply to Wrong, by my logic they set by Rob (not verified)
Except that's not your logic. it's what you seem to think your logic is, but it isn't. Logically, the "expected lifespan" (not the "we really, really hope this is how long it lasts" but the actual lifespan that can be expected) is how long the unit can consistently last. Consistently implies "the vast majority of units tested."
Your logic says that most of the units will NOT meet the 10 year mark, therefore the expected lifespan cannot be 10 years.
Using your logic, if a new pharmaceutical drug worked "once in a while" on cancer, then it would be considered good enough for sale as a drug for that use. Or a sewer pipe might be rated for "500 years" because it could be theoretically possible for that pipe to actually last that long, even though most fail far sooner than that.
Things are rated with a
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In reply to Except that's not your logic. by Aaron Turpen
Things are rated with a confidence interval all the time. And you have just handed me the trump card on cancer drugs, do you realise that the response rates to most cancer drugs are on the order of 5-30%, most cancer treatments have success rates in that range and they absolutely get approved for use on the basis of that.
You are still missing the point of binomial distribution. There are some Prius batteries that have lasted in taxis for over 300,000 miles, is that the average? no, they are outliers at the high end. Should they sell to people telling them that's what they should expect? no that would be misleading.
The only thing you can do is tell people the average, a few people will have it fail a little earlier than expected and a few will be lucky and it will last longer than expected, those that get seriously dudded through chance and not misuse get it replaced under warranty.
If you want to be strictly accurate you would list the confidence interval ie. expected lifespan 10 years +/- 6 months or something like that where 90% (or some other arbitrarily chosen percentage) of batteries will fail within that time frame either side of the average. But most people who are told something will last x long on average would not be outraged and shocked if it lasted a few weeks more or less, they'd be a little annoyed or ecstatic if it lasted months and months less or more than expected and they'd be seriously pissed or overjoyed if it lasted years less or more than expected. Warranties are to cover the seriously pissed category.
To bring this thread back to
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To bring this thread back to something constructive, the volt battery is unique because it is engineered to take both capacity fade and "accidental bricking" out of the picture. It does this with a 6 kwh buffer. This is why you only see 10 kwh from the 16 kwh battery before the gas kicks in. This gives it a solid advantage in lifespan and unlike the leaf, tesla and the soon to be released comp from BMW and the like, the volts system is idiot proof.
You can park the volt, battery drained, at the airport in Pittsburg in February , Come back a month later and it's still great... GM has done an amazing engineering job, which is why it is winning awards...
Now it's up to the salesmen to convince your average middle class commuter that the volt is really worth the money....
Exactly.
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In reply to To bring this thread back to by Mark (not verified)
Exactly.
Teslas and leafs have similar
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In reply to Exactly. by Aaron Turpen
Teslas and leafs have similar buffers, Tesla has a 5% buffer. Its a tradeoff, how much of the expensive battery pack are you willing to lug around as dead weight in order to idiot proof the thing. Do you punish the people who care for their vehicle properly by locking up half the battery pack to protect a few idiots who cant read a manual? Theres no easy answer, but they do all have battery protections built in, all the volt has done is made it an enormous percentage of the packs capacity. The Tesla bricking blog controversy came about in a very early Roadster before some of the battery protection features were added, I believe only the first 400 cars are more susceptible to battery issues due to fewer protective features.
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