New Law Could Silence Loud Exhausts

I've been around fast cars for 6 decades and I remember a time when cars and bikes were REALLY regulated. Now in the age of all out race cars being disguised as new age muscle cars the owners go a step or three farther by removing any of the mufflers, it's way out hand. I have a stock Hellcat and every time I start it I wonder how can that be legal? Don't get me wrong, I love the car but how far is too far?

Got to this article having googled "Florida loud exhaust problem". Too much government involvement, really? Here in Miami area it feels like there is zero government involvement, even though there clearly, clearly *should* be some -- according even to already existing noise regulations. But nope -- police just won't bother to pull anyone over for all this insane noise. I just don't understand it. To me it's like blasting a radio on a crowded train car! You just don't do it! Pests is what these folks are, modifying their exhausts. Pests! And I sure hope some sort of an "exterminator" will take care of them one day, one way or another!

It's clear to me that nearly everyone here is a fuddy-dutty boomer with no sense of the fact that you should leave people alone if they're not harming you. You all would be SO much fun at parties. And the fact that someone thinks that people with legally modified or loud factory exhausts should be "exterminated" is utterly psychopathic.

Are there people who make their cars loud for the sake of being loud? Yes, absolutely. The issue is that laws like this attack those who are modifying personal property as a hobby. And also attack industries that employ tons of local people. So basically, how would everyone who gardens or landscapes their property feel if there was a law against it because people didn't like looking at it. That it was an "assault on their vision"? Those of us who modify are cars properly don't do it to be annoying, we do it to have fun. We do it because it because it makes our lives better.

I've also found that most people who complain about this sort of thing are the sort of people who move to a place, knowing what it's like, and then complain about everything. You're the people who move next to a racetrack on purpose, and then get the racetrack shut down. And then you complain about all the reckless driving on the roads.

Laws like this, similar to the ones in CA, also forget the fact that there is a vast number of cars that are "loud" from the factory, you can't ticket or fine someone for buying something off the lot. It also ignores the fact that this doesn't stop people from going out of state to get their car modified. On top of that, this doesn't stop people who live out of state from making noise. It can't be enforced if someone from PA drives over with legal modifications and a NY law enforcement officer tries to ticket them. Yeah, they can hand them the ticket, but it will be dropped.

True there can be no compromise by the nature of the issue. Every decibel represents someone's greater freedom or greater torture. Also true, criminal enforcement with tech (beyond reasonable doubt) is unachievable. But civil enforcement (which could - but usually doesn't have even traffic consequences (noted above)) is possible just on officer testimony and experience (predominance of evidence). So, the RPM'ers are not ultimately safe from the SLEEPers. Not bashing cops here, but it is clear that they could make an impact in many urban/suburban areas where loud roads are well known - they choose not to or are directed to other more important details than non-traffic civil violations. (In FLA the judges can do $1000/pop, but enforcing that? We're going to need that too to get attention and compliance.)

This is a willingly plague infested country. Asking for quiet seems so quaint.

Nice informative article Jimmy.
lol, save the assault on RPM act, what about the assault on all the people trying to sleep at night and have to to work the next day. There's a little jerkoff mad at life out on the streets waking up every one and disrupting people intentionally with F_____ing stink junk noise, a coward with no respect for anyone especially himself.(Lots of people and a few little mad cowards) That's why we need congress to step up to the plate. They already proved they need to be fined and told they can't do this. (like a little kid who needs daddy to tell him he is wrong) If you want to implore people to protect the motor act, do it with sense decency for all the community. Allowing these guys to now become another road hazard is not the answer. Create a venue out in the woods somewhere and they can blow their socks off.(lol,my buddies comment)
"To each is own," comment that you made, well keep your loud disrespecting junk noise to yourself then it will be to your own. I advise people to read the comments of any post to get both sides of the story.
The cutsey name, is beautiful. It tells the bottom line of this new critical challenge on our roads in the last few years. People get woken up. I should go to this slime bags house with some nice Bose speakers and blow junk noise at him so he can understand how much he sucks. (girlfriend told me to record the punks junk and play it back for him)
It's not just a good law it's a needed law.
I disagree with u whole heartedly on this Jimmy, (You said this, "But no law should tell people what they can't do to a vehicle they rightfully own".) hahahah,. So, they are allowed to speed, that's ok with you? that is why laws are in place to keep the safety and peace and tranquility in society. We need laws cause of people who don't have a courtesy Jene.The courtesy is not so common when we are still getting disrupted on purpose by a jerk with a bad attitude. So the bottom line response to this closing is you can keep your sports cars but keep them with decency and courtesy for the whole community not just your selfish brag ego Jene.
These Mental midgets are going over the line big-time now and need to be told they can't do this because they are not mature enough to know any better.(they will get worse if the authority keeps ignoring this) what's even worse is the road authority is not doing their job, there is no debate here. It is just a matter of why? Thank you for least a chance to put some real awareness on this new critical challenge on our roads. Vinny

First cut this pandemic shit out every time a group of ppl have a problem it’s a pandemic. Not everything is a pandemic and never will be one. Second this loud exhaust and motors started before 60’s back when they would straight pipe or run just headers or glass packs mufflers that weren’t baffled. They are more emissions than for noise they don’t check how loud your vehicle is during your state inspection but they are looking for emissions problems. Third this is more of another thing that the government is overstepping by telling use what’s loud or not what we can’t do. If we allow this it will be twisted into something way more than what it is. It will become the new way for you to get pulled over and have your privacy taken from you. 4th this how they force you to buy a battery car

I am a car enthusiast who wants to pass the SLEEP act and ban loud cars and bikes! We can hear loud modified cars at wide open throttle for MILES as they speed up the highway at all hours of the night. These people have no regard for anyone else but themselves. When your hobby intrudes into my family’s home, wakes up my kids and intrudes into our peace and quiet, that’s when it becomes a problem! Impound and crush these cars; it’s the only thing that will stop these selfish people.

Of all the things that are needing attention, the needy, the sick, the elderly, the vulnerable, etc, this is a thing? NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DISTURB THE PEACE. NO ONE.

You obviously have never had a brain injury, been elderly or otherwise injured. DRIVING AROUND AND DOING THAT IS IGNORANT SELFISH SELF OBSESSED SELF CENTERED AND IGNOMINIOUS. It also correlates with education level. The states with the highest education least poverty and crime outlawed that behavior years ago.

Its for the racetrack. Why is this even an issue? Some of the most self obsessed humans self centered humans are from / in the Us. This isn't even an issue in many countries. Why? Why would you want to drive around, hurt people with sound, literally cause them physical pain, disturb the peace,? It sounds like a farting car. It's like a spoilt child saying I'm going to break the candy jar to get attention. Idiotic.

Defective thinking

Your loud exhaust is not a civil right. It is rude and obnoxious. If you need to be loud to feel like your life has meaning, you need to see a mental health counselor.

The issue is the law, as you may want a noise law, so goes more free activity by all people. So then suppose the state decides thousands of students are injured every year playing sports, therefore we can all save insurance costs and reduce injury by banning sports. That would help parents save time and money and reduce interuptions in education yielding good results for all people. How about rationing McDonalds food - you get one stamp per month. All of this is carving away at your rights and the main reason the USA exists - freedom. The number os noisy cars is really very small, some few people may be sensitive, and they make noise to deal with their issues. We all can not have what we want with the use of laws - this process will result in more reduced freedom and unintended consequesnces for your children. The law is poorly written, not specific enough, and pits offices and inspectors against the public where this should be more clear and between only government elected officials and the public. Overall it should be recalled. Your roads will still have noisy race cars and judges will have a hard time with it while people feel slighted for their loss of rights and mistrust politicians even more devisively than they already do. Recall this law.

Take your “freedom” and stick it up your ass. People deserve a quiet night not interrupted by fucktards with little dicks over compensating for sad meaningless lives. I hope they ban them everywhere

"But no law should tell people what they can and can’t do to a vehicle they rightfully own. The SLEEP Act goes too far, as laws usually do, even if they’re well intended."

You can still do whatever you please. Just don't use it -i.e. don't make excessive noise.

Freedom also means those who are bothered by loud vehicles have rights. What happens when your "freedom" " forces" everyone on a entire suburban block to listen to your motor coming down the block at 2am. No one on this thread that advocates for "freedom" to make lots of noise, has offered a solution to those who's freedom from excessive and unnecessary noise is violated.

A loud noise/exhaust causes pain, and hearing damage. It is a PHYSICAL ASSAULT. Loud car (and esp motorcycle) people should be arrested for PHYSICAL ASSAULT.

Yes a person should have the right to do whatever they want, but a lot of those activities dictate they can't be done near other people, in neighborhoods, etc (shooting, racing, rock concerts, landing an airplane etc) - they dictate using locations far from non-participating people.

We already have a law in Florida and it needs to be enforced this is quite dangerous on different fronts.
#1 these Harley heads cannot hear what's going on around them and you really can't hear a horn knock because the pipes are louder or the music is louder than a horn.
#2 when cruising up to a stoplight then the stop light turns green and the Harley head to your left or right or behind you lays on it to go around you and scares the hell out of you some old people could very easily panic and cause an accident because of that.
It's noise pollution and air pollution combined.

"But no law should tell people what they can and can’t do to a vehicle they rightfully own."

What a sophomoric comment. Of course we need laws that restrict what people can do to their vehicles. Whether they "rightfully own" the vehicle or not is of no consideration. The sound pollution levels caused by immature operators of cars and motorcycles incesently reving the throttle at intersection stops and then going full boar at take off to achieve the desired effect "oh gee! Look at me!" has gotten out of hand and needs to be addressed. In regards to motorcycles, the whole "Loud pipes save lives" thing is total BS. These are the same riders who fly down the center line between cars in heavy traffic in total disregard for anyone's safety. You can't allow vehicle operators to decide what is safe, legal and acceptable for the road. In short order our roads will look like a bad movie with all of these mature load exhaust vehicle owners welding axe blades to their wheels. Hey! It comes in handy at a lane drop to prevent the guy next to you from getting in front of you. Stop the madness. Silence these morons.

Well, I live on the corner where I have 3 to 4 all three exhaust system pick up trucks in my living room every hour unbeknownst to me. I moved into a corner that was just a truck route and speaking with the police they say well we pulled him over and we give them tickets, but then they just pay the money and keep the Problem so the police can’t really enforce anything but a fine and frankly, the ones I’ve spoken to don’t really care they have other things more important to deal with

I think I will build an app called Asshole Alert. Let users snap a photo of the offender’s license plate and name and shame them online. Revise state laws so that drivers who get reported through the app have to get their vehicles certified for having a legal muffler. There I fixed the problem.

hahahaha, Tim that is a great idea.It is needed big time. lol, good one.:)))))
There is a book on preorder that will be out in I think in September. I saw up on the Barnes and Nobel Web-site; and the Smashwords book store.
Titled: Illegal Modified Exhaust is a Road hazard, Research series; why is this law not being enforced across the country?What the people can do to address it together.:O)
anywho, this new driving hazard will cause more accidents, cause these selfish Americans are startling people on purpose now.What is more sick, is the road authority which has the power to stop this is ignoring their sworn duty. Doesn't make any sense. If the people want to make this type of vehicle, create a venue for it not on our streets where the cowards hide behind their vehicle and bully people with their unearned privilege. OUr buddie says this all the time, lol
but in all seriousness, this has to be addressed because accidents that could have been prevented will happen or people will start shooting each other at this blatant disrespect. We are suppose to be on the same team in the United States, not attacking each other. moronic mental attitude. lol

Saying that such laws to limit the noise cars make will hurt the automotive industry is like saying limiting smoking areas with laws would damage the tobacco industry. Most people do not want to hear loud cars and the automotive industry will adapt.

Do what you want if it doesn’t hurt anyone, right? Well then, any after-market exhaust system should be banned. It’s like adding after-market headlights that you think is cool but they’re hurting other people’s eyes. Stop hurting everyone you drive by!!!! You need therapy! Lol

The sleep law will not affect new car sales, that's bullshit. It NEEDs to be in place becuse you motorheads won't respect the rest of the world and have to show how cool your car is by trashing the stock exhaust and installing a modified one that not only adds noise to the world but adds additional pollution as well. have you noticed the wildfires Jimmy, how about the rest of the shit going on because pollution levels are so high. Get with the program and support laws that add to the quality of EVERYONE's life. doid youy know that 90 decibels is so loud that over extended periods of time listening to level of noise will probably cause permanent hearing damage, but who cares as long as my ride is cool. Wake up pal. I love performance cars as much as the next guy, but none of my garage queens have any mods to the exhaust, most of the mods don't dfo a damn thing anyway as far as performance is concerned, BTW we have laws about how our cars must be used safely they tre called speeding restrictions, so don't give us the freedom BS about laws taking our freedom away, get real