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Prediction: The End Of The Gasoline Engine Is Not As Close As You Think

As rumors swirl of major automakers shifting gears from internal combustion technology to electrification, many consumers seem frustrated and voice concern about the uncertain future of the car and truck. Truck owners especially can be counted in the skeptical category when it comes to electric vehicles, despite some biased surveys.

Remember the REM song from the 1990s called “It’s The End Of the World (And I Feel Fine)”? That song, with a crazy amount of lyrics, seems to play in my head regularly when I see bombastic headlines and proclamations from even reputable publications proclaiming the end of the gasoline and diesel engine is coming within the not-so-distant future.

To that, I say, hold on a minute. It’s not the end of the world, and I feel fine.

While certainly electrification is part of the future for the entire auto industry, this doesn’t mean that internal combustion engines just go away like the dinosaurs (of which they consume for fuel, ironically).

Rather I take a more rational approach than others. You can’t deny that automakers are going full bore toward an electrified future. When Tesla emerged as a legitimate automaker they were a catalyst and disrupted the auto industry. Some view that as a bad thing, and I take a different approach.

I’m pro-consumer, meaning I want as many options for consumers to choose from as possible. This includes EVs, hybrids and yes gasoline and diesel engines, including V8s. I know how passionate the V8 crowd is in for both trucks and muscle cars.

I write enough about the Mustang Mach-E to where the mention of an EV Mustang gets the “muscle cars need to be loud V8s” crowd riled up. Likewise, when I talk about the 2023 F-150 EV, the lifted truck, rolling coal folks get as loud as their lifted trucks.

My point is, we can all play nice in the sandbox together. There should be powertrain options for whatever it is you want. Unfortunately, automakers are lacking a backbone and vision right now. With the shift in political power in Washington, automakers are fearful of tighter EPA regulations and are trying to react to that potential.

But do the consumers want that? That’s the crux of the issue. It would be a vital mistake for any auto manufacturer to push a product onto the consumer that they simply don’t want. And that’s the electric elephant in the room when it comes to the discussion.

Proponents say “it’s good for our planet’s future” or “it’s the right thing to do” or if a consumer would just drive an EV they would like it. All of that is up for debate, but in the end what matters most is what the American consumer is willing to spend their hard-earned money on. Keeping in mind the average vehicle purchase last 12 years. That’s a big investment for a lot of uncertainty.

Ford's 5.2-liter V8 engine‘Combustion engines really aren't going anywhere for quite some time’
In an article published by NPR, Bill Visnic, editorial director at the Society of Automotive Engineers, said the above quote and laid it out there. As director of SAE he certainly has his finger on the pulse and would know what he’s talking about.

In the same NPR article, Sam Abuelsamid, an auto analyst with Navigant, said: "Even if ... 100 percent of vehicles sold were electric starting today, it would still take 20 to 25 years to replace the entire vehicle fleet with electric vehicles."

Clean ICE
Today’s gasoline-powered vehicles have more technology than ever. With smaller engines and turbo boosting and direct injection, today’s internal combustion engine runs cleaner and more efficiently than ever.

So it begs the question, is a mass exodus from ICE necessary? Even Mary Nichols, who heads the California Air Resources Board, said in the NPR article that today’s combustion engines are cleaner than they’ve ever been.

"I started working in this area of air pollution control back in 1971," she told NPR. "And in that time, the air emissions from internal combustion engines have been slashed by over 90 percent — twice.”

Ford F-150 PowerBoostStill on the fringe
The stat I can’t get past and when having a debate about EVs, it’s hard to ignore. Consumer Reports claims in their “Green Choice” survey that a majority of consumers, 61% in fact, claim that tailpipe emissions are a factor in choosing a vehicle to purchase or lease.

If this is true, and color me skeptical, then why are EVs nothing more than a fringe vehicle with so few sales? EVs, at present are nothing more than a blip in the big picture of vehicular purchases. Tesla, not surprising, leads the way in total EV sales, but even their best-selling vehicle barely hits 100,000 units. Compare that to the 900,000 units Ford sells of the Ford F-150 every year. Ram too, General Motors as well.

You mean to tell me that 61% of the average consumer uses emissions as a guiding factor, and still chooses to buy a pickup truck? We shall see how well the new PowerBoost Ford F-150 hybrid sells. Sure it has a lot of perks, including a 7.2 kW generator, but is that plus slightly better fuel economy a factor for the truck consumer?

I remain skeptical and question any survey that insinuates otherwise. As Ford plunges forward with the Mustang Mach-E, a vehicle that can rival the Tesla on long range, this will be an important vehicle to show where the American consumer is. Have they just been waiting for a longer-range SUV or car that wasn’t named Tesla? With so many auto manufacturers launching real EV contenders, the next couple of years will show us a lot.

2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E chargingCoexistence is the key
I’m 100% in favor of auto manufacturers investing in electrification. Ford, I believe is saying and doing many of the right things. They’ve toned down the rhetoric that GM seems to have been drawn toward.

As GM announced a plan to eliminate production of gas-powered vehicles and only produce EVs by the 2035, Ford has resisted committing fully like that. And that’s wise. But, it hasn’t stopped Ford from doubling down on their commitment to electrification either.

“The transformation of Ford is happening and so is our leadership of the EV revolution and development of autonomous driving,” said Ford President and CEO Jim Farley. “We’re now allocating a combined $29 billion in capital and tremendous talent to these two areas, and bringing customers high-volume, connected electric SUVs, commercial vans and pickup trucks.”

My final take is this: Embrace the future, but don’t do so without paying attention to the consumer. Stop trying to convince them of what they want and listen to their needs. A slow, logical, reasonable approach to electrification is wise. Dip your toe into the electrification pool, don’t dive in. I believe General Motors is on the high board and about to make that plunge and it could be costly. Meanwhile, I believe Ford is taking a more cautious, and therefore, reasonable approach.

And as people grouse and complain about the upcoming electrification of the Ford F-150 or the Mustang Mach-E, they need to realize that these vehicles might very well prove out the EV market and shape the future.

I want to hear your take. Do you agree that EVs are being too obviously overhyped to try to convince an unwilling consumer? Or am I off base? Leave me your thoughts in the comments below.

Jimmy Dinsmore has been an automotive journalist for more than a decade and been a writer since the high school. His Driver’s Side column features new car reviews and runs in several newspapers throughout the country. He is also co-author of the book “Mustang by Design” and “Ford Trucks: A Unique Look at the Technical History of America’s Most Popular Truck”. Also, Jimmy works in the social media marketing world for a Canadian automotive training aid manufacturing company. Follow Jimmy on Facebook, Twitter, at his special Ford F-150 coverage on Twitter and LinkedIn. You can read the most of Jimmy's stories by searching Torque News Ford for daily Ford vehicle report.

Comments

Drew Christy Jr (not verified)    March 1, 2021 - 7:53PM

EV's are still expensive and not many are SUV, and there are currently no trucks available for sale. EV's will continue their rise when prices are more equal to ICE vehicles and more SUV and truck options are available.

Another issue is fast, abundant charging stations. Right now it seems like Tesla is the only company serious about it. Sure, you have others like Electrify America, but most of their chargers are much slower, and their aren't as many. It will also take family members and friends of long term ICE holdouts to convince them to change. Most don't like change for the fear of the unknown.

ICE vehicles will become a niche in the market. Much like EV's are today. The problem is, not many car manufacturers will be able to afford to continue producing those niche products. Especially once they place tons of money into developing EV's.

Jimmy Dinsmore    March 2, 2021 - 10:41AM

Until the range goes up to over 300, and the introduction of static state batteries, plus lowering the cost of EVs, they won't take hold. This doesn't even touch on the major infrastructure issues that exist and that have to be improved.

simhedges (not verified)    March 2, 2021 - 2:49PM

In reply to by Jimmy Dinsmore

Well I don't know why a static state battery (faster charging times? more capacity?), but I can tell you that the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has a range 292 miles and can recharge up to 80% of that amount in 18 minutes. So if that is possible in 2021, I think we can confidently say you'll be happy on the battery front by 2025. Prices continue to fall, and as for infrastructure, well you don't specify what you are concerned about, but although the laughable state of the US electric grid compared to most European countries is a major concern, but can be fixed, and after all the US managed to cover itself with cellphone masts in a decade, so it's possible. We're closer than you think.

Richard Joash Tan (not verified)    March 2, 2021 - 10:45PM

I love to because I love both the Bronco Sport Badlands and the Mustang Mach-E due to the fact that Toyota already has both the Prius Hybrid and the Rav4 Prime.

Blair Bromley (not verified)    March 3, 2021 - 12:51PM

There have been impressive developments in electric car and electric battery technology over the last 20 years. A full-electric vehicle that has a range between 100 and 200 miles will satisfy most (let's say 80% to 90%) of driver needs. However, it seems unlikely that it will be able to meet 100% of needs. Thus, I think it is more realistic to expect that ICE vehicles and PHEVs will continue to represent a significant portion of the market in the future. The other thing to keep in mind is that there are significant improvements emerging with combustion engines. Typical ICEs have efficiencies between 20% and 30%, but there are some new designs that have been able to achieve close to 50%. The other issue is fuel. Gasoline and diesel could be replaced by very-low-carbon liquid fuels, such as methanol, ethanol, and di-methyl ether, which would address much of the emissions problems. The good thing about liquid hydrocarbon fuels and ICEs is that you have a very high power-to-weight ratio, which is important for land vehicles. The other big elephant in the room is cost. If the cost differential between an all-electric (or PHEV) and a ICEV is more than $10k, it is going to be very difficult to convince consumers to switch. I like the idea of electric vehicles, but I cannot ignore the tradeoffs and limitations.

Robert Eich (not verified)    March 11, 2021 - 3:30PM

What is not being addressed here is the United States electric grid and electric generation stations. The global warming crowd wants to shutdown nuclear power stations, natural gas fired electric generation, and coal fired electric generation. Base load requirements can not be supplied by renewable energy. Energy sources that can be run 24/7 are needed to power the US electric grid. Good luck adding rechargeable electric cars to our already overloaded power grid!

Timothy Farrell (not verified)    April 12, 2021 - 12:03AM

Thank you for writing this article about fossil fuel cars and electric cars! I think a lot of people will be driving gas & diesel vehicles for at least the next 20- 30 years! I live in the midwest and we have winter for 3 months and cooler temps during other months, electric batteries get drained of energy in cold & freezing temps! Some people will buy electric cars too save the environment and be more eco friendly, but we are still going to have to recycle all those batteries and the toxic chemicals and metals! More people can drive electric cars in warmer weather, but people are still going to have to get used to charging them and maintaining the batteries! I'm glad ford did not set a deadline to completely stop making brand new fossil fuel cars, it might be very risky for automakers to set a deadline to stop making gas cars and not everyone wants to give up their gas vehicle! Fossil fuel vehicles are very well established and there are a lot of fuel stations all over the U.S, also there is a lot of potential energy in a gallon of gas! Companies that make fossil fuel cars can still keep improving their emissions, and use propane or natural gas that burn cleaner! I will probably buy a hybrid vehicle after a few years, but a battery only powered car, is going to have to get improved a lot and the price is going to have to come down for me too buy one!

Austin (not verified)    April 14, 2021 - 4:54PM

So my dream car is a 1990s Subaru wrx I won’t have the money to buy until at least 2025. Do you guys think it will be legal for me to just put a electric motor in it. Because if I must put a electric motor in the wrx I will. I just want to have the car itself.

Donna Rocker (not verified)    April 23, 2021 - 8:54PM

I have zero desire for an electric car. I love rural roads for long distances, especially in remote places like Wyoming, Montana, etc. Electric cars are great for people in big cities who never go anywhere. I would love to know who was surveyed to get that a majority want an EV.

Mark (not verified)    May 11, 2021 - 2:31PM

totally absurdity, tesla is only 'alive' thanks to subsidies, otherwise they'd go bankrupt 10yrs ago, how they're still afloat is amazing, their cars are plasticky ugly tinker toys and musk is a 'bernie madoff' scam artist EV style, how are people living devoid of a garage going to charge those stupid things? how far would they have to go to a power-station? how many people would pay thousands of dollars to refit the power in their homes to charge that stupid EV anyway? it'd costs thousands of dollars the majority of people don't have ICE is the only reliable power source, can you imagine an electric 767 LOL or a oil tanker/freighter/cruise sip? RIDICULOUS these are niche toys nothing more than that GM loses 10's of thousands on each Volt/or bolt or whatever the hell the new ones are, even incentives aka; BRIBES don't get people interested, they'd head for bankruptcy again if they went all electric....

John Hamilton (not verified)    May 12, 2021 - 12:53AM

Im sick and tired of democrats making decisions for me , they are shoving the new green deal down every ones throat. , choose internal combustion engines over an electric motor any day. And it should be my choice. Not the Democrats , They are taking all of our God given freedoms from us and forcing their ways on the American people. Which is BS. I hope that they keep making internal combustion engines.

JS (not verified)    February 17, 2022 - 7:51AM

In reply to by John Hamilton (not verified)

I agree with you. Who are they to make these decisions? The Democrats have way overstepped their authority without taking into consideration what the people want.. They try to justify it and decide what's good for us when it's really just a bait and switch to make the government look like shining stars and jump on the bandwagon in this new world lunacy.

Tom Flash (not verified)    May 17, 2021 - 11:27AM

It may not matter what the consumer wants but rather what the earth needs to extend its life. There W/ always B a% of people who dn't coop just like masks. How soon the transformation takes W/ depend on incentives...W/ their B a carbon tax on gas when the oil companies lower the cost @ the pump to compete? W/ EV's become cheaper W/ mass production. To what extent W/ the auto become TAAS...W/self driving vehicles.Think, 50% of young people cannot afford any kind of car! W/there B any deflation? Biggest transformation in history but it seems like ICE's W/B around for @ least another decade or 2. I have 4 of them W/no current thoughts of trading for an EV.

Dustin (not verified)    May 27, 2021 - 8:40PM

Real automakers (as in, not tesla) know that no one wants EVs. They know they wont sell many, but they have to offer them in order to satisfy the impending ridiculious CAFE standards that will be implemented at some point...so they can continue selling the big, gas sucking pickups/SUVs people will buy. Because even losing 5 or 10k on every EV they basically have to give away is cheaper then paying fines or buying carbon credits. Think about it...the good ol gas/diesel fired piston engine isnt going anywhere for a very, very, very long time. Now, if youll excuse me i have to go fire up my 460 powered F250 to go get grocieries. Leave the powerwheels for the kiddos.

Jsturg37 (not verified)    June 23, 2021 - 12:47AM

I think the whole government is mentally retarded and lacks common sense. Who would want a junky ass electric vehicle that is slow as hell has no power and looks plum ignorant. The idiots just wanna tell people hey u can't drive your gasoline car anymore if you want a car u gotta pay thousands for one these junkie electric ones or do without. Like I said bunch of retards just like Joe Biden. If most the US goes on strike and grows a pair and says hell no we ain't driving junk and having pay for it too, then maybe the retards would quit that foolishness.

Jimmy Dinsmore    June 23, 2021 - 10:10AM

In reply to by Jsturg37 (not verified)

You do realize that many EVs are faster than some ICE vehicles? Tesla just tested a car that went 0-60 in under 2 seconds. No ICE vehicle can match that or the torque. You might be mistaking hybrids and EVs. A Prius is slow, but a good EV is torquey and fast and fun.

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