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I Bought a New Chevy Silverado, 4 Months In, the Bank Wants $35K From Me On My Old Truck, the GMC Dealer Never Paid It Off

Imagine buying a new 2024 Chevrolet Silverado pickup, trading in your 2017 truck to a Chevy dealer, and then your bank says you still owe them for the old pickup you traded in. Here is David's incredible story.

My bank demanded $35,000 for my trade-in, which the dealer should have cleared and paid off. 

Imagine driving a new truck for four months, and then you have to give it back because the Chevrolet dealer wasn't honest.

You've just bought a new 2024 Chevrolet Silverado pickup, traded in your 2017 truck to a Chevy dealer, and then your bank informs you that you still owe them for the old pickup you traded in. This is the unbelievable story of David's car dealership nightmare.

That happened to David Wright, from Bonneau, South Carolina, after he bought a new 2024 Chevrolet Silverado pickup. 

Here's David's story.

According to a report from Count on News 2, "David was left in shock after a local dealership severely damaged his credit score following a trade-in months earlier."

David traded in his 2017 Silverado to Winding Chevrolet GMC, Kingstree, but later discovered the pickup wasn't paid off and that he was suddenly responsible for two sizable payments.

Imagine the shock David felt when his bank contacted him, demanding a payment on his old truck. 

The report by Count on News 2 says Wright purchased a 2024 Chevy Silverado from the GMC dealer in June and traded in his 2017 Silverado at the same time with a balance of around $35,000.

Wright bought the new 2024 Silverado pickup and rolled the balance he owed on his 2017 Silverado into the amount he financed with GM Financial for the new truck. 

The GMC dealer was supposed to pay off his old truck but didn't.

In August, Wright says he received the first of many concerning letters from the bank through which his former truck was financed.

Wright said: "I got a letter from TD Bank wanting money. So I called them, and she said, 'You're late on the payment,' I said, 'Ma'am, I traded this truck in June."

Wright asked Winding Chevrolet why they had not paid, and he was told that their bank account had been hacked.

Wright added: "They were trying to get everything straight so they could take care of it. As soon as they got it, they would pay it off and get the money back in the bank."

The report says Winding Chevrolet made one payment of $812 on August 20. However, David Wright continued to get calls from the bank about missed payments.

The ongoing struggle was a source of frustration for David.

He said: "Now my credit is going down because of them being late, late, late, really late."

Later, a letter arrived, stating that TD Bank would repossess his new Silverado truck if the payments were not made. The potential impact on David's credit score was a serious concern.

Furious at the Chevy dealer, Wright added: "They have made no attempts to change nothing. "I got a letter, right to cure, where they are fixing to start repossessing the truck, and once they repossess it, then that's really messing my credit up."

The dealer's lot was empty. 

News 2 revealed that they went to Winding Chevrolet GMC to investigate and discovered the empty lot; all new cars and trucks were gone.

Michael Winding, owner of Winding Chevrolet GMC, said that the new vehicles had been moved because they are in the process of changing out GM Financial as their floor plan loan company.

David gets his 2017 Silverado, but he must return the new truck. 

The Count on News 2 report says the trade-in contract with David was eventually canceled, and Wright was given his old truck back.

David says, "Channel 2 news came up here with me, and now, low and behold, I got my truck back, and they got theirs."

Winding Chevrolet GMC confirmed that a request to cancel the new car deal with Wright had been submitted and that he would be compensated for what was already paid under the contract.

David's issue was resolved; he received his old truck back, but his credit score still needs to be straightened out. He is waiting on final confirmation from GM Financial but is hopeful the situation is resolved.

"Now I have to get my credit straightened back out," he said.

How do you ensure the dealer pays off the loan for your trade-in? 

Consumer advocates recommend that you do three things: 

  • Get a written promise from the dealer
  • Follow up with the lender
  • Verify within 10 days.

Consumer Education says, "If your new car purchase includes trading in a car with an unpaid lien balance, be sure to get a promise, in writing, from the dealer regarding the trade-in payoff date. Be aware that if your next payment is due before the dealer agrees to pay off the loan, your payment will not be made on the due date unless you elect to make that payment.  Follow up with the lender to ensure the payoff was actually made."

Unfortunately, not all new car and truck dealers are honest. David Wright found out the hard way. 

Have you ever traded in a vehicle, and the dealer failed to pay it off? If so, click the red Add New Comment link below and let us know.

I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news and providing expert analysis on Subaru, which you'll find here, ensuring that you, as a reader, are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on my X SubaruReportAll Subaru, WRXSTI, @DenisFlierlFacebook, and Instagram.

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Comments

wayne crider (not verified)    November 28, 2024 - 5:24PM

i would be glad if i didn't owe 35 grand on the old one. but i would just go to a different dealer one that's definately in good standing. but however id just keep the 2"17 if its a good one because they were made better for the most part. especially the upper trim levels. i'd you got low miles then its a blessing

Porter (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 1:26PM

In reply to by wayne crider (not verified)

That’s an old dealership trick. I had one do that to me in the 80’s.
Trade-in was supposed to be fine for payoff. They waited 4 days came back at me for the money to payoff the trade-in or return the new car. Went to an attorney who told me since there were contracts, signatures, etc. the original deal was legally binding. He also told me I’d end up spending more than the price of the car to fight it. It’s a crappy way to do someone but the dealership doesn’t care. On his suggestion, I wrote down the VIN numbers of the vehicle I wanted. Took my trade-in back and flipped off the dealership. Went like 5 miles down the road to another dealership authorized to sell the same brand of car. Gave them the VIN number and told them where it was located. I did a new deal with them, got my new car back and got a much better deal.

Scott (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 1:36PM

In reply to by wayne crider (not verified)

I can't imagine how much the payment on the 24 was when the remaining balance from the 17 he traded in was rolled over into the loan for his 24. With the price of trucks these days that's well over $1,000 a month truck payment. Going to another dealer when his credit gets straighted will get him a better deal on a new one with a trade in anyway so long as he does his research and talks to multiple dealerships. Driving an hour or more away to a dealership is well worth it a lot of the time.

John Burkholder (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 1:37PM

In reply to by wayne crider (not verified)

My question is how much did this dude pay for a 2017 truck and seven years later still owes 35k? Obviously not too intelligent trading in a vehicle with that large of a balance still left on the load. Dude needs to get a Kia Rio.

SgtJmack (not verified)    November 30, 2024 - 12:06PM

In reply to by wayne crider (not verified)

His credit is going to be messed up for a while with the 3 month late and a possible repo on there. It takes a while for that to be corrected and addressed and then adjusted on your report

Steve Ekdahl (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 3:22PM

most dealerships are dishonest crooks, you have to do a lot of research before you buy anything from a dealership and even then they'll find a way to screw you, it's so unfortunate that car dealerships are run that way.

Henry Schmidt (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 4:05PM

I traded in my 2011 Silverado in September of 2015 for a brand new 2015 Silverado at Jim Gauthier Chevrolet. It took them 4 months to pay off my trade in. I was making bank payments for 4 months on 2 trucks. Every month I kept phoning my bank to see if it had been paid out. Several visits to the dealership to find out what was going on. Kept being told that they would look into it. Some shady stuff going on their.

Charlie Rauch (not verified)    December 6, 2024 - 5:54PM

In reply to by Henry Schmidt (not verified)

I obtained a bridge loan once. Only paid the interest on the original loan and the full amount of the new loan each month. When I sold the car I paid off the original loan. Another option would be to talk to your lender to see if they would send paperwork for the dealership to sign to take over your original loan. No signature; no deal…

Charlie Curcija (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 4:18PM

Old truck is 7 years old, but he still owed $35k. How does that happen? Aren't car loans maxed at 72 months (6 years)? More important lesson here is that you shouldn't buy a new truck if you don't have money and you still owe for the previous truck.

Steven Hirsch (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 6:55PM

In reply to by Charlie Curcija (not verified)

I agree. I couldn't believe that any financial institution would take a new truck loan with a $35k old truck payoff tacked onto it in the first place. His payment should have been much higher, that would have been the first clue. Still, sad that dealers don't make these issues clear to consumers.

SgtJmack (not verified)    November 30, 2024 - 12:03PM

In reply to by Charlie Curcija (not verified)

Many are going 72 and 84 or even 96, in order to get the payments thr customer needs. However, we don't know when he purchased the trade in or how much he paid for it. He could have bought it used a few years ago.

D Mitchell (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 5:08PM

I purchased a truck and financed with Ford Credit at a higher rate than I liked but got a $1000 rebate. 4 months later the dealer refinanced it for a lower rate with another bank, and I gave him some cash to lower the payment.

A month or so later I am still getting statements from Ford showing the cash applied to my loan but not the refinance amount. This happened once more and I paid visit to the dealer F&I guy asking why Ford hadn’t been paid. He told me I would have to ask the owner. When he couldn’t give me a straight story I told him he had one week until I went to see the District Attorney. It got paid. The dealer was out of business pretty quick after all this.

Michael Church (not verified)    November 29, 2024 - 5:49PM

Second you signed the papers to release liability it's no longer your problem. Tell your bank to contact dealership

Dan (not verified)    November 30, 2024 - 8:27PM

How would someone owe $35k on a 2017 pickup in 2024. That’s a 7 year term on an auto loan at $812 per month. That’s $68k plus. Sounds kinda whacked out on the numbers to me.

Michael P Giles (not verified)    November 30, 2024 - 10:14PM

I have not personally had this happen to me, but I did sale automobiles for a new car dealership that didn't submit the trade in payoff in a timely fashion. We had a pretty high volume dealership doing normally 200 to 250 deals a month. The deal got misplaced and my customer got a call from his bank when they didn't recieve his payment. We eventually ran the deal down took care of the payout and added a letter explaining what happened.

Jake (not verified)    December 2, 2024 - 12:11PM

Sounds like their finance depth didn't know what they were doing. Also, 2+ months to cancel your title?? Besides, the payment would still have been on BOTH vehicles, just to a new lender. What's shocking is anyone believed the dealer was responsible for detailing a GM Finance loan..

Jim Leinicke (not verified)    December 2, 2024 - 5:55PM

If you trade a vehicle for which you have not paid in full, then you couldn't afford the vehicle traded, much less the new truck. You are financially irresponsible and a moron for good measure.

J Solomon (not verified)    December 2, 2024 - 9:01PM

It's been decades since it happened to me, but I traded in a GMC Jimmy that the dealer was supposed to pay the loan off. Imagine my surprise when a GMAC rep showed up at my door to repossess the truck I no longer owned. I let the rep know that I traded the truck in and pointed them to the dealership... fortunately, it worked out in the end and I never heard more about it.

BikerChickk (not verified)    December 2, 2024 - 11:30PM

Years ago, I bought a brand new motorcycle and traded in my old one.
A few months later I had the police at my door with a search warrant. My old motorcycle was used as a get away vehicle. A gas station was robbed and the attendant shot.
The motorcycle shop had sold it with my plates on it and financed it. They were not planning on changing the title until it was paid off.

Romney Sprecher (not verified)    December 4, 2024 - 9:12AM

That was happening in west Texas a few years ago. The dealer was taking trade ins and not paying them off.
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Jim (not verified)    December 7, 2024 - 12:34PM

I had the opposite happen. I bought a used vehicle a year old in AZ. Paid cash and flew down and drove it home. Two months later I had still not recived the title. I reached out and dealer is now out of buisness. I'm trying to get the title and find out the old loan was not paid off. The old finace company threatened to reposes the car that I paid for. Needless to say it took me 5 years to get the title.