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Honda Civic Owners report strange goings on in the night

Here's a clue: With wireless technology comes a bit of a learning curb for 10th Generation Honda Civic owners. Is your car’s electronic system glitchy? Or is it simply a case of user awareness, or a lack of it.

I appreciate the convenience and instant gratification afforded by today’s modern automotive electronic key fob. This mainstay accessory has morphed from a rather simple remote signal door unlocking device to a handheld microcomputer, capable of preheating, starting, or stopping most premium cars from the comfort of one’s home or office. My key fob helps me find my car, lost in a mega-sized parking lot. I’m working on parking space consistency, in case I lose the darn thing -- my key fob that is.

Is your latest Honda Civic equipped with a keyless ignition?

It’s all very cool stuff until it glitches, or you do. Honda is a forerunner in what’s referred to in the auto industry as “up-trimming.” In layman's terms, this is where an automaker integrates features into entry level, or sub-premium class cars and light trucks, that in the not too distant past, were reserved for premium, or luxury cars and SUVs.

Such is the case with the 10th Generation Honda Civic

Back to those reports of strange goings on in the night: Last year, while reviewing Honda’s exceptional Civic Hatchback Touring, I noted a strange occurrence or two. One morning, on approaching Civic Hatchback Touring, I noted a partially opened sunroof and both 2nd-row side windows. I’m anal when it comes to locking a press car, I was sure of it. Weeks earlier I’d left a sunroof partially opened on a Summer evening -- surprisingly, it rained that night. Lesson learned I was darned that I’d do it again. Yet there it was, a partially opened Honda Hatchback. Was I losing it?

That morning I was scheduled for a photo shoot, featuring 2017 Honda Civic Touring Well, no harm was done that balmy Summer evening. So, I depressed the e-brake, toggled Civics CVT into reverse, and headed off to Autzen Stadium. My Honda Hatchback drove on without a hitch that day. Yet I still pondered the mysterious window roll-down. How, why and where crossed my mind. What was I missing?

Shuffling through my minds trivia hard drive, I was reminded of a key-fob related glitch of sorts when experiencing the reinvented Honda Odyssey -- I’d experienced an unintended engine shut-off in a keyless-ignition equipped Odyssey in Kona. Honda engineering had no explanation for the engine shutdown at that time. Could it all be key-fob related?

I turn to Consumer Affairs for a possible answer

Honda, the 5th largest automaker in the United States has very few Honda Civic related consumer complaints listed here. However, there it was, a complaint, or more accurately a warning from a well-meaning Canadian 2017 Honda Hatchback Touring owner.

Else of Dartmouth NS tells us: “We purchased a brand new, 2017 Honda Civic Turbo Sport, electric push start, in July. It was a great car - completed all the surveys from Honda favorably. September 1st we had our first problem. We went out first thing in the morning and the sunroom was 1/2 open and all 4 windows were 1/2 down. We didn't leave the windows down. We thought someone had broken into it. I notified the sales rep.”

Else writes on: “A week later on Sept. 7th, my husband walked the dog around the car; all windows were up, key fob in the HOUSE. The next morning was pouring rain, and yep, all 4 windows were down and the sunroof wide open, car soaked. The real nightmare was trying to get the dealership to help, with drying out the car and to find out what was wrong with the car. Unbeknownst to us, this is a common problem that Honda has known about since 2008, according to the service manager.”

And then? “We were given the line that if you put the key fob in your pocket, "something" could press the Unlock button, and cause the windows to go down and sunroof to open. We bought an extended warranty, and neither the regular warranty nor the extended one would help us. We were blatantly told it was our fault, and this was an insurance claim, and with the $500 cost to dry out the car, $50 for diagnostics charge, and however much for a rental car (oh, we couldn't get an appt. until Monday as it was the first day of school and a lot of people had booked time off!), we're looking at over $1,000.”

The final solution: “We ended up calling another dealership, and we got the car in on Friday - the next day. They were helpful, sympathetic, and hooked the car up to diagnostics - for free. They also put the car in their detail shop and did some work on drying out the car (there was an inch of standing water in the cup holders, so you can imagine how much rain got in there). In the end, they couldn't find a problem with either the key fob or the car, but the change in attitude more than made up for what we went through with our original dealer.”

Elsie’s kind warning: “So, a word of warning - if you have a Honda Civic, DO NOT put the key fob in your pocket or purse. If you believe Honda, something could hit this button and make your windows go down on their own. Goodness only knows where you're supposed to carry your "keys" if the fob is that sensitive.” Thank you, Elsie.

Caution: Your modern Honda Civic is high-tech-sophisticated

With all new equipment comes an operating procedure learning curve. Your modern car or light truck is a computerized driving marvel. While I do agree that Honda Dealers should spend a few moments acquainting customers with the intricacies of their new cars, inevitably, familiarity with the product is the responsibility of the end-user. Heck, I’ve locked my key fob in the car with the engine running. That was an expensive lesson. For more details on your Honda Civic, check this out.

Reference: consumeraffairs.com

Photo attributions: American Honda 2017

Comments

George Michael Cade (not verified)    January 2, 2021 - 4:58PM

In reply to by Terry Wilson (not verified)

Same problem on our newly purchased Honda Civic sedan CVT bought in August 2020. Have build and modified a small candy can to protect the fob buttons. I do believe other car fobs are activating the car lights and windows. I am continually checking the car on a rainy day when I park it outside on a shopping lot. The fob protection works well. I have a picture of my invention if your interested. Email me.

Cora Dickinson (not verified)    January 4, 2021 - 9:10PM

This is a ridiculous feature! Thank God it didn't snow at our Michigan home last night. I went out this morning and thought someone had broken into my daughter's car. I know for a fact that I didn't press the unlock as I am extremely careful about securing our vehicles at night. As Mr. Cade stated above, I am also wondering if another car remote had an effect on her car. The last thing I did was remotely lock my husband's Dodge Avenger from inside the house. I can't help but think that is when the windows went down on her 2016 Honda Civic. We live in a high foot traffic neighborhood and were lucky her wallet and other valuables were not stolen. Now, I worry about sending my son to college in the HRV, where it will sit out in a faraway parking lot where he won't realize for days if the windows are down. Not happy.

Mark Weinstein (not verified)    January 25, 2021 - 2:08PM

I had two related problems with my 2020 CRV: the car locking itself randomly, often overnight, in my garage; and all four windows opening by themselves. Fortunately, Avalon Honda has a great service manager who does not see it as his mission to blame the customer or save Honda money. To the contrary, he took the problem seriously, put the car through two diagnostics, could not find a problem, so he replaced the car's computer for free (I was within the warranty period).

richard p stoll (not verified)    February 14, 2021 - 1:45PM

rained last night. door was locked. windows up, I live in Florida, awake this morning to see my 2019 Honda Civic with all 4 windows down, door locked. inside of car soaked. What is going on. I have read comments from people with same problem. I Love this car however this problem must stop.

richard p stoll (not verified)    February 14, 2021 - 1:51PM

rained last night. door was locked. windows up, I live in Florida, awake this morning to see my 2019 Honda Civic with all 4 windows down, door locked. inside of car soaked. What is going on. I have read comments from people with same problem. I Love this car however this problem must stop.

Charlie Hummel (not verified)    March 14, 2021 - 5:44PM

Two weeks ago I leased my third (don't ask me why) Civic.
My first was a 2016 and the next was a 2018.
My new lease is a 2021. My previous two had the same problem. The difference between my last two and my new Civic is that the last two did not exhibit the issue until maybe a year into the lease. But my new Civic has started to do it already!!
Absolutely UNACCEPTABLE.

Marlon Ricketts (not verified)    March 23, 2021 - 4:34PM

I recently had a similar problem with a 2019 civic and I replace the left front door actuator and that seem to fix mine

Dave Churchman (not verified)    April 26, 2021 - 4:51PM

Probably unrelated but when my wife unlocked her subaru forester today in a store parking lot, it also unlocked the adjacent honda. She repeated it 3 times. Maybe the Honda computer security system has an inherent issue.

Anthony Marciano (not verified)    May 12, 2021 - 8:51AM

Windows go down by themselves I put a shield over the key and it did it again. Honda still says that it is the shield but they are liars. So now what I do is carry both keys. One to open the door and the other to use to start the car. Hope my plan works.

Dan (not verified)    June 2, 2021 - 1:41AM

I'm a professional mechanic and I figured out this problem with my girlfriend's 2016 civic hatch. The keyfob is extra sensitive when it comes to getting wet and accidental pressing of buttons. My fix is I took out the batteries of her main fob and gave her the extra fob for everyday use which does not have the window feature. I still have the main fob as our backup but we no longer have to worry about this problem. Fyi there's a tiny screw holding the fob halves together.

aida (not verified)    July 6, 2021 - 8:30PM

Finally i asked dealer he said if u unlock the car on keyfod too long press it will open the windows byitself and this was done for purpose to vent the car from hot to prepare me for driving

Clive (not verified)    August 23, 2021 - 7:54PM

I do not have a key fob just a regular key wirh an open botton, close button, trunk opening button and panick button so it is not subject to accidental contact. Last night 8/20/2021 during tropical strom Henri the two rear windows opened the left a quater of the way down and the right half way down. Six months prior to that all the windows opened half way and a year prior to that the driver window opened all the way. After the first incident I made sure that the windows were locked and the keys are on the table at night where they can not be disturbed. In my case each occurrance was during a rain storm with lightning. Fortunately I do not have a sunroof. So the fact that I do not have a fob negates all of Honda,s protestations that it is probably the customer who is at fault.

Cindy Whetsell (not verified)    November 2, 2021 - 6:14PM

I am having the same issue with my 2021 Honda CRV. It has happened twice. I have the issue recorded on my security camera. This needs to be fixed. I would like information o the class action lawsuit. I would love to join.

Leroy Hite (not verified)    December 5, 2021 - 6:23PM

Same thing happened to us but with our 2021 Honda CRV. Third CRV we've owned and first time this happened. Came out this morning for church and my windows were half down & the sunroof was open. Car locked. Both Fobs in our house. No forced entry signs. Inside car wet some. Fob cannot lower windows or open sunroof automatically. Nobody touched keys. Both are in drawers. We never use sunroof & always leave car windows up when exiting. Your thoughts...

Shane Maddox (not verified)    April 20, 2022 - 3:03PM

My 2017 Civic has done this twice during a severe storm. Neither key fob was accessible during the time, but when I walked out the next morning all four door windows and sunroof was half opened. The whole inside of the car was drenched and took two days to dry out. This car is doing it during an electrical storm without manipulating the key fob. Very irritating. I am now having to cover my car just in case it happens again.

Christina (not verified)    May 26, 2022 - 1:53AM

i hace the same problem with my 2019 civic twice now at work and kit was raining on both occasions. i dint have a fib and I never keep my keys in my pocket they are always on the counter by themselves. i had to dry my car out myself and was left wondering why this happens. I love my car but would like this problem to be looked into. i would also like to get in on the class action lawsuit