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“You Hear That?” Michael Says Over the Sound Of a Rattling Engine, “That’s Another Dead 2024 Toyota Tundra, Owners Are Selling Before the Warranty Expires”

Toyota has a serious issue with the Tundra pickup. Here is what one expert has to say, and I'll explain what Toyota is doing now. If you own a Toyota Tundra or are considering buying one, here is what's going on with the truck and what you need to know.

Toyota, we have a problem. 

That’s what Tundra owners are saying. If you own a Toyota Tundra pickup or are considering buying one, Toyota has issues with the truck's 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 engine. How serious is the problem? 

Toyota has initiated a massive recall for the 2022 and 2023 Tundra, with plans to replace nearly 100,000 Tundra engines. This recall, estimated to cost between $300 and $500 million, is a significant undertaking. Read my report here for more details. However, there may be problems with the 2024 model year as well. 

What are truck owners saying?

Micheal Bordenaro, a truck expert, shared a warning on his TikTok channel (@curmudge.inn.alask) about the 2024 Toyota Tundra pickup. 

Micheal says this is surprising but increasingly common problem as more 2024 Tundra owners come forward with engine issues. In his video, he says there are more Toyota Tundra engine failures, and owners are selling their trucks before the warranty expires.

"You hear that?" he says over the sound of a rattling Tundra engine. "That's another dead Tundra, 2024."

Toyota recalls 2022 and 2023 Tundra trucks, but Michael says he sees more 2024 Tundras with the same problem. 

He says, "I can't believe I'm making another video on more 2024 Tundras with cooked engines. That's right. The spun main bearings are just like this one here that was heard." 

Tundras are depreciating fast.

Third-gen Tundras (produced since 2022) are depreciating faster than they should. This alarming trend is leading owners to sell their new Tundras before they're out of warranty, potentially affecting their resale value.

He says, "Third-gen Tundras depreciate faster than EVs after an EMP pulse. Yeah, let that sink in. People are dumping these new Tundras before they're out of warranty."  

What are Tundra owners saying?

Michael says the latest cooked Tundra was a 2024 Tundra TRD. The owner says. "2024 Tundra is knocking badly. Did it happen to anyone else?"

Here is a comment from a Tundra owner named Chris.  

He says, "Well, my blown engine nightmare continues. The (Toyota) dealership rebuilt my engine in 20 days, and when I went to pick it up, every piece on the front end of the truck had some scratch on it. Obviously dragged on the shop floor."

The Toyota dealer agreed to fix it, and Chris had to have his truck in the body shop to replace the grille. After he got the truck back, he noticed they broke the volume knob off. "So, back in the shop for another 3-4 days. And I'm supposed to trust these people to rebuild my engine?" he says.

Chris says, "The service manager at the dealership said that Toyota has him 'under the gun' and under "strict timeline' to get the truck back to me. So it sounds like Toyota was rushing the truck back to me to avoid having it in the shop for 30 days to avoid a buyback." My state law says it's a lemon if it's in the shop for 30 days for the same issue."

Michael tells Toyota, "If you want this problem to disappear, take care of your customers. Do the right thing. You built an inferior product for $60,000 to $80,000, fix it … or give him a new truck. You eat the cost."

Toyota is eating the cost.

A report from Automotive News says that Toyota would not say how much each engine replacement costs. However, based on what Toyota budgeted for the safety recall (announced in July), the cost per vehicle is expected to be about $3,000 to $5,000. 

Toyota estimates the Tundra engine replacement recall will cost them between $300 and $500 million. 

What is the problem with the Tundra engine failure?

In the 2022 and 2023 Tundra pickup and Lexus LX SUV models with the V35A twin-turbo 3.4-liter V-6 engine, internal passages in either block or cylinder heads were improperly cleaned. Small chips of metal, called "swarf," a result of the machining process, remained inside the engine after assembly. 

The presence of these metal chips poses a serious risk. If they break loose, they can contaminate the engine's oil, leading to severe internal damage and potentially causing the engine to seize. This is a safety concern, especially if the vehicle stalls in traffic. Nearly 1,000 engines made in two Toyota plants have already failed due to this issue.

It appears now that the 2024 Tundra has the same issue. It's important to note that Toyota has not issued a recall for the 2024 Tundra. 

2022-2023 Tundra owners will get their trucks fixed first, but they'll have a long wait.

Toyota has to replace the defective engines with new ones. Each engine replacement will require between 13 to 21 hours to complete. With 100,000 engines being replaced, many customers will be waiting to get the work done. 

Toyota says it will supply nearly complete engine assemblies, including turbochargers, pulleys, tensioners, and other components, to its dealers to save technicians time in the Tundra engine replacement process.

What should Tundra customers do now?

Tundra owners are concerned because it could affect the trucks' resale value before they get the engine replacement. Michael says some Tundra owners are selling their trucks before the warranty expires. However, Tundra owners need to know, they will get their trucks fixed because Toyota has to replace the Tundra engine under the new recall. 

Tundra owners can check the NHTSA website here for recall information. 

What's next for Tundra owners?

Toyota plans to notify customers in either late November or early December so that they can begin scheduling engine replacements. The recall will be launched officially in December. 

Will Tundra customers get loaner vehicles while their truck is in the shop? 

Toyota says they are paying for loaner trucks for customers. However, some stores may have a shortage. Steve Gates, owner of Gates Auto Family, a 13-store group with three Toyota dealerships, says he does not keep pickups in his store's loaner fleet but said he'll move some from his new vehicle inventory to give customers what they need while their vehicles are in the shop.

It's Your Turn.

Do you own a 2022, 2023, or 2024 Toyota Tundra pickup? Have you experienced any engine problems? If so, click the red Add New Comment link below and let us know.

I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news and providing expert analysis on Subaru, which you'll find here, ensuring that you, as a reader, are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on my X SubaruReportAll Subaru, WRXSTI, @DenisFlierlFacebook, and Instagram.

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Comments

Glenn Dickson (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 3:26PM

FORD had similar problems in the late 1980's and early 1990's with V-6 engines.Casting sand stayed in some corners of their blocks after cleaning. Some areas were painted over and the sand vradually worked loose. At least this is what the Service Manager told me. Perhaps it was the metal shavings. Unfortunately when my engine went ON WARRANTY FORD told me pound casting sand even though they had repaired some other peoples engines for the same problem. So I was finished with FORD 32 years ago and will never ride in one unless it is a hearse, ambulance or police car where I have no choice on the brand of car!

Wylie (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 5:55PM

I bought a mid '23 built Tundra in September of '23. It has 12,000 miles and about 2,500 are towing a 5k trailer. Not one issue so far. I get 15.9mpg combined (street, highway, towing) and I got about 13.5mpg combined on my duramax. I love the truck. 4 more years of warranty. Fingers crossed.

Kevin konopacki (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 7:11PM

I have a 2022 tundra that has 80,000 km on it and does a lot of rough idling to where it almost stall dealer said they don’t have a fix for it . Plus going on my third piece of plastic on driver’s seat.

Curt (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 8:08PM

My 2022 Limited has been recalled. I have been in regular contact with the GM at the dealership. I was heading up I-95 last month at 78 mph and it went into limp mode while I was in the hammer lane. Was able to get off at the next exit. Texted the GM on a Sunday morning and told him the piece of crap finally died. He called me immediately from home. Told me his hybrid did that once and he let it sit for 5 minutes and restarted it and everything was fine. I tried it and have not had an issue since. Not a lot of confidence on road trips, though. Still waiting for the dealership to contact me.

Keith Duby (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 8:09PM

Bought my first brand new Toyota truck exactly 1 year ago today,
24 Tundra 1794 Edition with the I-Max motor.
32k miles and the motor starts knocking, and I'm freaking out.
This was going to be my 1 million mile vehicle, I guess I just saw that fly out the windows. I think a class action law suit needs to be started. I'm pissed.....
Keith

Bapakbob (not verified)    December 11, 2024 - 11:03PM

A current car owner's lifetime of trust in the Toyota brand; destroyed in not just one, but two simultaneous debacles in the Toyota truck lineup. Overtaxed newly designed but only a 215 cubic inch motor in the Tundra and a 146 cubic motor in the Tacoma are guarantees for short lifespans for the respective trucks, And now the Taco's new tranny is failing!

Ed Ferro (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 8:33AM

I have a 2024 tundra trd not the problem version with 12000 kms on it. So far so good I changed my oil at 5000 and 8000 kms to avoid possible metal filings. Time will tell, great truck to drive so far...

Daniel Gardner (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 8:51AM

We bought a used 2022 tundra from Dan Cummins in Paris Kentucky it had 18,000 mi on it. Is there a way to find out if it had already had an engine replacement The day I bought it I crawled underneath it and seen it had some fresh oil that was on the underbelly and I wondered about it and asked the dealership about it and they did not say anything about it or give me any details. Later on we have noticed hard starts and sounds of like metal on metal during a start up. Does the dealer have to tell you if the engine has been replaced?

Max (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 2:21PM

I had a 2022 Tundra, from the start the truck was riddled with issues. A gas gauge that didn't work electrical problems, a throttle that was delayed seconds and the truck actually went into limp mode as I was passing at 80mph on a two lane road, very scary. At 27k I started hearing a knock, immediately checked the oil, that was good. I had even changed the oil after the first 1000 miles but to no avail. I too now had a blown Tundra motor. It took nearly 6 months and multiple trips to the dealer to kind of fix the truck. Toyota at the time also refused to give me a loaner and corporate was no help. They were never able to get it to stop leaking oil. I was even kicked out of the dealership as they refused to fix the oil leak. This was the worst vehicle I have ever owned and the customer service from both the dealers and Toyota cooperate was ABSOLUTLY not existent. I ended up submitting this to the attorneys general and got a buyback from Toyota. Who fought tooth and nail to not pay out. I even have proof of them changing the dates on the main dealer invoice for my rebuilt motor to say the truck hadn't been there for more than 30 days. It was the most aggravating experience I have ever gone through. I will never buy a Toyota again, what made Toyota a Toyota is no longer a reality... Reliability.

Signed,
Former Toyota Fan

Marshall Teague jr (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 5:18PM

Just bought a 2024 tundra, at 155 miles my check engine light came on. The dealer here in fairbanks said it was water in the fuel. However my engine has a knocking sound till it warms up, about 5 minutes. My truck has less than 500 miles on it right now

Joel Lane (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 8:21PM

I own a 2024 Tundra. About three weeks after purchasing it on November 3, 2023 (Fred Anderson in Asheville, NC) the engine/fan started making a rattling sound. You can really hear it when stopped. I went in for my 10,000 mile oil change a couple weeks ago and told them about the noise. They said that they didn't hear anything and that it was probably a stick in the fan. It also changes gears pretty rough and jerks when put into drive from reverse.

Bob Motyka (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 10:15PM

That's why I bought a 2020 with a 5.7
No way I'd buy a twin turbo 6.
Hello, Toyota, Is anyone listening? Screw the zero carbon emissions!!
Trump will wack the electric mandates.
Does it make sense to burn carbon fuels to make electricity to charge a zero emissions car? Wake up people!!

ShirotheHero (not verified)    December 14, 2024 - 12:04AM

One clarification to your article - this recall is only for the non-Hybrid motors. The Hybrids are exempt from the recall and haven't exhibited the issues of the other factory line that made the base build.

I own a 23 Hybrid Limited and it's been stellar. I thought it was too big at first and just didn't really love it and had some regrets, but now, 2 years in, I love every bit of it. It's fantastic. I've had 3 Tacos prior to this and they were great, but anemic in the power department.
The new Hybrid motor pulls like a freight train. It's surprisingly fast and pulls strong. I pull a 10,000lb trailer intermittently and have a massively steep, long canyon on I-80 to climb up with it in tow. The weak Taco was scary with a 6000lb trailer. The Tundra pulls my big one nearly effortlessly up that hill and can pass with relative ease and without ringing out the motor.
It's comfortable, has an amazing amount of room and did I mention how much power it has? The electric motor adding torque while the turbos spool was a brilliant idea as it gives it torque through the entire powerband with no real dead spots and will spin the tires easily. Plus, it will drive a short way under electric only when the battery is charged up - it's stealth mode. Oh and my dog loves his living room of a back seat.
I do hate that it sounds like crap. But it's hard to make a twin turbo v6 sound decent, so I'll give them a pass.
Outside the motor issues of the base motor, the truck is hard to rag on.

HHA (not verified)    December 14, 2024 - 2:17AM

The new Tundras also have serious fit and finish problems, the worst being misaligned doors. Toyota is refusing to fix one of my passenger doors thats out of alignment. Talking to my dealer and expanding every Tundra on the lot, every single one of them has misaligned doors, which is why they don't want to acknowledge the manufacturing defect. Check your Tundra, your doors probably don't line up. And that's not acceptable for a 70K truck.

Shawn T Monette (not verified)    December 14, 2024 - 12:44PM

Wow? I just leased a 2024 Tundra Platinum a few weeks ago. It was my understanding that the 2024s weren't any cause for concern. Crossing my fingers to not have any problems. Planned on buying it out at the end of the lease. Now I'm going to be super paranoid to every sound I experience while driving.

Michael Bunting (not verified)    December 14, 2024 - 6:01PM

I have 2023 Tundra it rattles noise at start up and wont take gas as it should. I know Toyota will fix it cause they have way much to lose. I dont want something else i just want what a paid for . Im afraid to take it on a trip cause i dont want aWre ker Bill to bring home. Michael Bunting 8010 Spruce River Road Danville WV 25053. Thank You

Ian Joyce (not verified)    December 16, 2024 - 12:44AM

I am so glad I sought out a new 2021 Tundra when the 2022’s came out. The styling of the 2022’s immediately turned me off, but more importantly, I figured there would be bugs with a completely redesigned truck. Boy was I right! Toyotas quality seems to be going the way of the big 3 in recent years.