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My daughter just got a quote from our local Midas to replace both rear brake calipers, rotors, and pads (all aftermarket) for $1500. Mechanic told me that most of it was going towards parts and $200 for labor –This father-daughter team paid only 20%

A father-daughter team refused to be scammed on a brake job by following advice given by a popular online mechanic. This is a good demonstration of one option car owners have to take control of their car repair costs.

Earlier, we learned about the three common scams garages use to make customers spend more than they should on repairs courtesy of an informative video from the host of the Royalty Auto Service YouTube channel.

Viewers were so impressed by this video that it generated a large number of comments, including this one that not only showed another way garages scam car owners but also how a father-daughter team managed to significantly cut their costs:

Father-Daughter Team Up to Beat Scam Repair Cost

 

Where Was the Scam?

The scam noted by the comment was the cost of approximately $1,300 for aftermarket parts rather than using the recommended OEM parts. This is a red flag that the garage is potentially scamming the customer with excessive markups for parts that, at best, are questionable, depending on the source.

A good response to a mechanic for a quote like this is to ask for the aftermarket parts source and the actual brand and level of the parts used. Performance brake parts can be this expensive but are unnecessary for most cars. A quick online search with this info would help clarify whether you are looking at a markup scam.

The Royalty Auto Service YouTube channel

The father-daughter team comment referred to a 39-minute episode titled "How To Perform a Professional Brake Job (Pads & Rotors)" posted December of last year by the host of the Royalty Auto Service YouTube channel.

The introduction to the video states:

"Do you want to make sure your brake job has no noises, vibrations, or any other issues when you're done with it? Do you want to make sure it lasts as long as it should? Sometimes, we think we know everything about a subject, but there's always something else we can learn. You've probably done hundreds of brake jobs in your life, but we believe this video can help you, even if it's just one small thing you add to your process. We will take you step by step through our brake job that we do daily at our shops. We hope this helps! Enjoy!"

In the video, the host walks you through how they do a brake job using a customer's Toyota in need of a new brake pads, new rotors, and servicing of the calipers to ensure smooth and correct braking operation every time the owner steps on the brake pedal.

 

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Intrigued by the comments made by the father and by the host, I decided to review the video to see whether the demonstration was detailed enough and doable for non-mechanics to attempt.

In the video, you will observe the following key points:

1st Step: Rotor Removal and Hub Cleaning

  • Disassembling the brake ensuring the calipers are hung aside correctly to avoid damage to the calipers and the inner surface of the brake hose.
  • The recommended penetrating lubricant for breaking a rusted rotor free.
  • The importance of cleaning the hub before putting a new rotor on it.
  • How to properly clean the hub using a variety of common cleaning tools.

2nd Step: Cleaning the Brake Pad Cradle

  • Checking for slide play after inspecting the old brake pads for unusual wear.
  • Rattle clip details and why having a clean space for them on the cradle is very important.
  • Bead blasting works best for cradle cleaning; however, a wire brush and some elbow grease will do.
  • Cleaning of the slides followed by using the proper grease type and noting that although they may look similar, the slides must go back into their correct holes in the cradle.

3rd Step: Preparing the Calipers Ready for Cradle and Pad Installation

  • The importance of preventing crud from getting into the brake fluid while compressing the calipers by using the bleeder port.
  • How to determine if your brake fluid is dirty.
  • Ensuring that the brake hose is never bent during cradle/caliper reinstallation.
  • Where does brake squeak noise come from, and how is it eliminated.
  • Why you have to clean even brand-new pads out of their packaging, and how to do it.
  • Tricks for installing brake clips and the pads that make a difference.

4th Step: Reinstalling everything

  • Rotor on, pads on, caliper on, in correct order and with care along with a few tips for doing this correctly.

What I Liked and Did Not Like About the Instruction Video

While not fully detailed step-by-step instructions, the value of this video is that it is great to use along with a repair manual covering brake service and repair regardless of the model of your car. The steps were shown in the correct order and provided viewers who go to the service center with a clear idea of what should be going on in a garage when their brake system is serviced.

The best part, however, is that the host provided those it' s-the-devil-in-the-details you will not find in a repair book.

In other words, following each step as described in a manual is not always enough.

You also have to know the finer details that ensure your brakes will not need another repair or service for many, many miles. It's those finer details mechanics gain with experience, and now, with YouTube, car owners can gain some of that experience as well in a video like this one.

The only part I did not like was the lack of safety in the video. Brake pad dust exposure avoidance and wearing gloves whenever possible are very important here. In addition, goggles must be worn―especially while spraying any brake clean type product. Get a small squirt of that in the eyes, and you will realize your mistake immediately. Been there, done that.

That said, here is the video which I strongly encourage anyone wanting to save money by doing their own brake pad and rotor replacement to watch with a repair manual in hand and do a dry run of how to do this type of repair before getting their hands greasy.

As mentioned before, even if you do not intend to do a brake service yourself―which is fine and understandable―the video is a great way to quiz a mechanic on what they did during the service.

How To Perform a Professional Brake Job (Pads & Rotors)

 

For additional garage brake system-related articles, here are three informative ones for your consideration:

Timothy Boyer is an automotive reporter based in Cincinnati who currently researches and works on restoring older vehicles with engine modifications for improved performance. He also reports on modern cars (including EVs) with a focus on DIY mechanics, buying and using tools, and other related topical automotive repair news. Follow Tim on Twitter at @TimBoyerWrites as well as on Facebook and his automotive blog "Zen and the Art of DIY Car Repair" for useful daily news and topics related to new and used cars and trucks.

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Comments

Libu Shibu Varghese (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 9:49AM

In reply to by Vishalkumar (not verified)

Hi,
I absolutely agree Midas is absolutely scam..
The parts cost lot lesser than what they quote. They include there warranty charges which they say it's lifetime but when we take back our car within the warranty period they will find a way somehow get another thousand dollars from our pocket.
I got a quote $1500 for front side callipers, brake pads and rotors to be changed which was within the warranty period. I got the job done at a different place for $850 and also got a refund for returning the calliper cores.
Absolute scammers these people are..

Ry (not verified)    December 9, 2024 - 1:24PM

$326 for TWO SETS of calipers, rotors and pads?!? That’s 4 calipers, four rotors, and two sets of pads. I’m sorry, you’re completely full of shit.

Wiz (not verified)    December 9, 2024 - 1:54PM

Midas is great…..for oil changes only. They literally go to auto parts store and buy carquest parts for their repairs and bang you out with markup on those parts. If you can’t work on cars yourself, buy the parts, go to Mavis and they will put them on for you. You are getting the professional install but can get the parts way cheaper.

Tony (not verified)    December 9, 2024 - 2:56PM

Took my 06 Honda Ridgeline to what I heard was a reputable repair center for an AC recharge . Made the appointment and dropped it off . About an hour later got a call that said there are two hoses , upper and lower that have to be replaced . The total cost to fix the AC would be , $734 58 . I said no , and I would be over to pick it up in five minutes . So I brought it home after paying $234.00 bill for shop rate for the diagnosis . Once home I thought I would see if it was something I could do myself . So I popped the hood lever from the inside . Went around to the front to lift the hood . And noticed that none of the dust that gathered around the release was even touched . When I did open the hood and propped it up , I seen the same . The prop rod was still covered in dust as well as everything under the hood . They said they did a leak test and it failed . Thing is they never even removed the cap on the AC line that they would have to put the gauge on . They never touch a thing on the vehicle . Not even opened the hood . MST likely never even sat in it because it was in the same parking space as when I dropped it off . So my friends don’t trust anyone . Ask when they will be working on your vehicle and make an unexpected drop by . By the way I purchased a can of refrigerant and the kit to recharge it myself for fifty odd dollars and a year and a half later the AC is still working fine .

Sam (not verified)    December 9, 2024 - 4:20PM

Midas are known crooks.
Only went there 1 time to have something welded.
There were a couple of things they found and quoted me an outrageous quote. Some of the items were not needed.
Once they found out I was a mechanic every thing changed.

PR1962 (not verified)    December 9, 2024 - 10:24PM

Midas in Atlanta wanted $800 for a front wheel bearing on my 1985 Buick Regal ... in 1991...I was traveling thru at the time...told them to put the car down... drove to a Autozone...bought the bearing, grease.... a hammer ...chisel...and sand paper....did all in the parking lot for less than $60 bucks...MIDAS is Crooked ...like Hillary !

Craig (not verified)    December 10, 2024 - 7:26AM

People need their cars in the modern world as much as they need their body's, and modern cars are as complicated as the human body. Willing to spend 5k to get a tooth pulled, complains about spending 1k to keep the item used for transportation everyday so their lives are anything. Even inexpensive cars cost 20k new, and it's a machine that sees rigorous use, but spending a little to protect the investment is a "rip off". Did you know the place you ended up getting the parts yourself marks those parts up over 200%? Surprised people aren't ranting about that "rip off". Bet you bottom dollar as soon as you have a real issue or a YouTube mechanic can't bail you out you will be begging an automotive shop to help you out. People are so ungrateful for the service provided. It's not respected, it's just expected.

Calvin (not verified)    December 10, 2024 - 2:04PM

Well done.... I believe if it ain't broke don't fix it. One time I dove home on 3 brakes.... 35 miles. My kids wanted to kill me... It was a quick hour fix.... 🤣

0CHILL (not verified)    December 12, 2024 - 2:39PM

All businesses operate on a mark up. While you are calling it a scam, most call it business. It's only a scam when a blue collar worker gets paid. Keep paying your health insurance premium.