Save your truck's engine. This Toyota Tundra owner has a little secret on when to change your truck's oil in order to save the engine of your vehicle.
At what mileage should you change the oil in your vehicles? One Toyota Tundra owner, who says he had 37 trucks and a trucking company for 35 years, says he learned to change the oil in his vehicles' engines at these mileages and has prevented engine failures despite Toyota's recent decline of Tundra's reputation.
His name is Imad. He commented under my previous video about a 2024 Toyota Tundra owner whose truck's engine failed after 7,000 miles.
He says, "I can tell you from owning a trucking company and owning 37 trucks on the road at one time for 35 years, that changing the oil that comes in an engine at 1,000 miles is the smart way to do things, regardless, if the engine is diesel or gasoline. Everybody should do that to get rid of any Shaving that are left from assembling the engine, I’ve done that on my 2022 Toyota Tundra at 1K, 3K, 6K, and 10k. And now I change the oil every 5,000 miles without fail regardless what the dealer have advised me that Toyota recommends.
On a TwinTurbo engine, the oil loses viscosity much quicker than the normally aspirated engine. I have 21,000 miles on the truck now and the engine runs like a champ. Change the oil folks. This is like the blood in your veins. Oil is the blood of your vehicle's engine. Regarding Toyota engine failure, I’m not saying that Toyota didn’t screw up, but if you had changed the oil before all that debris ran through the rings nothing would have happened to the engine."
So, make your first oil change in your Toyota Tundra after 1,000 miles, then 3,000, then 6,000 and then at every 5,000 miles regularly. That's an interesting perspective! It's true that frequent oil changes can benefit your engine in some ways. Here's a breakdown of some points to consider:
- Early Oil Changes: While some car manufacturers recommend an initial oil change at 1,000 miles for severe conditions, Toyota's recommendation for most Tundras is typically longer. However, there's no harm in doing an early change for peace of mind, especially if it makes you comfortable like it has for this guy with his trucking experience.
- Break-In Period: Modern car engines generally have tighter tolerances and less need for extensive break-in periods compared to older models. Following the manufacturer's recommendations during this time is usually sufficient.
- Oil Viscosity and Twin-Turbo Engines: Imad is right that twin-turbo engines can put more stress on oil, potentially breaking down viscosity faster. However, Toyota uses high-quality oil designed for these engines, and the recommended intervals should account for this.
- Following Manufacturer Recommendations: Toyota engineers design their engines and oil change intervals specifically for their vehicles. Following their recommendations ensures proper lubrication and helps maintain your warranty. So what's true about Toyota Tundra, may not be right for Ford F-150. Thus, try not to pass the car manufacturer's oil change recommendations.
I think, at the end of the day, the decision is yours. If frequent oil changes work well for you and your experience gives you confidence, then there's no reason to stop. However, it's important to be aware that Toyota's recommendations are based on extensive testing and are perfectly safe for your Tundra.
Armen Hareyan is the founder and the Editor in Chief of Torque News. He founded TorqueNews.com in 2010, which since then has been publishing expert news and analysis about the automotive industry. He can be reached at Torque News Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube. He has more than a decade of expertise in the automotive industry with a special interest in Tesla and electric vehicles.
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Hmm like we say at the shop…
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Hmm like we say at the shop all the time… 500 then 1500 then every 5000 there after or 6 months. This goes for every vehicle ever made.
F that,I change my oil every…
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In reply to Hmm like we say at the shop… by Josh Szhem (not verified)
I changed my oil every 3 months, I tried to follow Toyota recommendations, and I ruined a motor.
There are plenty of good…
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In reply to Hmm like we say at the shop… by Josh Szhem (not verified)
There are plenty of good synthetic oils that are lab-confirmed to resist more shear than any standard engine will generate, at well in excess of 10k miles. This is a proven fact, not an opinion. Changing oil based on time is even more unnecessary, and this isn't even controversial anymore. Lab tests have shown 5+ year old oil performs as good as new. I guess if you tell customers any of this you can't sell them an oil change though.
I would be most surprised if…
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In reply to There are plenty of good… by Just (not verified)
I would be most surprised if five year old oil performs as good as new, until you're talking about unused oil left on a shelf for five years!
I agree that all vehicles…
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In reply to Hmm like we say at the shop… by Josh Szhem (not verified)
I agree that all vehicles should get oil changes other than what a
manufacturer suggests.
Yes the synthetic oils have improved and do not break down as easily as before.
But changing the oil as often as YOU see necessary you can’t go wrong. Specially if you’re pitting some kind of load on it. Be it excessive outside temp,towing,high compression motor. In the long run it’s cheap insurance.
I started working for Toyota…
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In reply to Hmm like we say at the shop… by Josh Szhem (not verified)
I started working for Toyota in1975. At that time Toyota had a 500 mile oil change recommended. I don't remember when that changed , but I have followed that with every new car I have bought. l was a Toyota master technician with 17 years with the company. It has always worked for me.
Those that think this will…
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Those that think this will help or change anything have a fundamental technological misunderstanding of the issue.
This. The engines have a…
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In reply to Those that think this will… by Chad (not verified)
This. The engines have a fundamental problem and the oil changes have nothing to do with it.
After turning wrenches for…
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In reply to Those that think this will… by Chad (not verified)
After turning wrenches for 56 years I have to say I disagree with you, however some of the designs on these newer engines are asking for failure like Ford with their siamesed cylinder walls and a slit in between for coolant when the compression pressure is 500 psi or so. The 400 small block Chevy had simmered cylinder walls and had problems in the 1960s and 70s. The new engineers either don't know about previous problems or more likely they want it to fail to make money off of us which in my opinion is crooked.
Honda used a floating bonded…
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In reply to After turning wrenches for… by Boyd (not verified)
Honda used a floating bonded cylinder design where the cylinders were only attached to each other and at the bottom on their 4 cylinder engines forever and never had a problem with them.
No one in their right mind…
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No one in their right mind can say that changing motor oil at 10k is better than 5k.
1000%. The less miles on an…
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In reply to No one in their right mind… by Al Shap (not verified)
1000%. The less miles on an oil change is ALWAYS better. Thermal breakdown, water contamination through condensation, viscosity breakdown, etc. I ALWAYS change oil in every one of my vehicles at 3,000 w/ filter change, and I use off brand synthetic. Less than $23.00. I have never had any internal engine work on dozens of cars with 200k+ miles. It is probably overkill, but it is far cheaper than tearing into an engine!
Its also not worse, i have…
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In reply to No one in their right mind… by Al Shap (not verified)
Its also not worse, i have changed oil on many cars at 10- 17 k miles , i had ford focus that the last 200k milis i was charging oil at 30k miles, and drove the car to jankyard with 490k miles and good running original engine
I've had a number of Toyotas…
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In reply to Its also not worse, i have… by Karo b (not verified)
I've had a number of Toyotas over the past 30 years and several with engines still going strong after 300k miles. I started using full synthetic oil and a high quality filter and reduced oil changes from every 5k to 12-17k miles about 15 years ago. I saw no change in life expectancy. I've never had a Toyota engine with cylinder walls or rings wearing out.
First of all after…
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In reply to No one in their right mind… by Al Shap (not verified)
First of all after rebuilding Ford,Chevy
Pontiac, Chrysler gas engines and many kinds of diesel engines I agree that changing the oil at 500 or less miles is a good idea. Not because of
Big but small metal particles from the break in process however this is not necessarily from tighter tolerances.
In the 30s to the 50s and even the 60s the machining processes were not quite as accurate and piston design and other engine parts improved. More engineering went into piston design than any other part. A piston when cold is oval shaped slightly so that when at operating temperature it fits the cylinder with the proper clearance.
The older the engine the less this is true hence the need for a break in period since the rings were not seated in the cylinder at first. So the sooner you get the metal particles out the better for the engine.
2 more things.
1) every time you run an engine hot the aluminum pistons over expand and get scrape marks from rubbing the cylinder walls, the oil cooks and the bearings don't get lubricated well.
2) Most people fire up their car and take off right away. I have timed at idle and higher Rpm how long it takes oil to get to the rocker arms on an OHV engine at idle. Up to 3 minutes. OHC is quicker. It's like getting out of bed and going to work without breakfast and coffee.
So when you crank up your vehicle, let it run a little bit with no load, if it runs hot shut it off. Don't try to make it home and don't run it low on oil. Some parts like pistons, rings and ohv camshaft are splash lubricated. May be enough oil for oil pump to lube bearings but not other parts depending on engine design.
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In reply to No one in their right mind… by Al Shap (not verified)
He didn't say he waited 10,000 miles to change the oil... He said he changed it four tires in the first 10,000 miles (at 1k, 3k, 6k, and 10k)... then every 5,000 miles thereafter.
Sheesh... It's called English people...
I'll say it. I drive mostly…
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In reply to No one in their right mind… by Al Shap (not verified)
I'll say it. I drive mostly highway miles and change oil about every 10k miles when the minder tells me it's due. 200k miles, engine still runs perfectly and is clean as it was when new inside. Cutting my service interval in half would just effectively cost me twice the money and time to service it.
Yes I can confirm that…
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Yes I can confirm that changing your oil at these miles is best. especially for the EcoBoost platform in all the Ford's, tundras and other turboed gas job this is something ever manufacturer needs to abide by or something like it thanks for the amazing article
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Did you perform oil analysis samples at any of these intervals to validate what debris was in your oil? I would like to know what oil analysis showed. Otherwise your claim is just an opinion, nothing more. You may have had a good engine to begin with and left some money on the table.
I do 12k oil changes on my…
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In reply to Did you perform oil analysis… by TDC (not verified)
I do 12k oil changes on my 09 Dodge Charger with the 5.7 hemi and no issues at 142k. I do use boutique synthetic that is made for me and my cars. Oil analysis done regularly with over 240k over two cars and no issues with lots of anti wear additives left me
What kind of oil? Synthetic…
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What kind of oil? Synthetic or not? other opinions?
Whatever you do don’t use…
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In reply to What kind of oil? Synthetic… by Steve (not verified)
Whatever you do don’t use synthetic as a break in oil
I can't agree more in…
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I can't agree more in regards to early oil changes. In the old days there was a break in period as as far as speed was concerned in New vehicles. I recently purchased a new Toyota Venza was told 1st oil change due at 10,000 miles NO WAY JOSE.
I had it done at 4,500 miles and most recently at 9,500 will now let it go for 5,ooo miles and look at color of oil on dip stick. I have found this to be a good measure depending on how you rack up the miles. So important to keep it clean to extend the life of the engine.
I did the same thing with my…
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I did the same thing with my 06 GMC Sierra Z-71 and I still change my oil every 3000 miles. I was told that by a GM mechanic who I know personally. He also told me to forget the cheap gas and run premium. So far he was right. 208576 miles and still tachs 5000 rpm when I haul my trailer uphill and no issues. Jim
I got a 07 Trunda 342000…
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In reply to I did the same thing with my… by James A. Hayes (not verified)
I got a 07 Trunda 342000 miles I have changed the oil at different mileage and a lot at 10000 miles but I have used Mobile 1 10w50 runs great and it's a 4.7 engine it's all in if it's made on a Monday or a Friday
Toyota engineers engineer…
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Toyota engineers engineer the oil viscosity and change intervals to get the engine through the warranty period.
What becomes of the engine after that is your problem.
Uhm! The comment about…
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Uhm! The comment about tighter tolerances in newer vehicles is totally wrong. Newer vehicles have looser tolerances in order to increase fuel milage, less friction better gas milage and increase the epa. That's why so many new cars have blow by at 50000miles or less.
I like the Amsoil By-Pass…
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I like the Amsoil By-Pass kit with the 2 micro filter. This is next level oil cleaning that removes what you oe filter doesn't. I had to have an oil distribution tap off the oil filter to the Amsoil filter bracketed to the shock tower. The clean oil return to next to the drain plug with 1/8 " thickening plate welded on for npt thread hole. Plus an old hydraulic resevoir is used as a catch to keep the intake & cats oil free. For what you invest $^N, this filtering setup is a no brainer.
So it is apparent that the…
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So it is apparent that the person that owns this Toyota is clueless and really shouldn't be speaking out about simply changing oil solved the Toyota engine issues.
This engine issue is not solved by oil changes and torquenews.com shouldn't be posting this trash.
Use better oil after the…
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Use better oil after the break-in period. I too had a trucking company. We had Scions, Sprinters and Hinos. Amsoil allowed me to change at 20,000 mile intervals. I also used oil samples to check the quality of the oil. My last truck sold was at 687,000 miles with an expected duty life of $250,000 miles.
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